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Freedom Kira:
--- Quote from: Tatsujin on August 22, 2012, 10:30:07 PM ---I'm also thinking two sticks of high-end RAM as a starter would be much better than dealing with 4 sticks of average-type of RAM. This is pointed towards high-end computers to get the most out of your system.
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I can't say I agree there. The difference you get from greater RAM speed and lower latency is hardly noticeable in modern computers. Sure, you might see a difference in the DDR days, but this is 2012.
I upgraded from 8GB of CL7 RAM to 32GB of CL9 RAM (same speed) and haven't noticed a difference in performance. This is on a server-like system, though, so I get more out of the large RAM capacity at higher task loads.
Tatsujin:
--- Quote from: Freedom Kira on August 23, 2012, 03:45:47 AM ---
--- Quote from: Tatsujin on August 22, 2012, 10:30:07 PM ---I'm also thinking two sticks of high-end RAM as a starter would be much better than dealing with 4 sticks of average-type of RAM. This is pointed towards high-end computers to get the most out of your system.
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I can't say I agree there. The difference you get from greater RAM speed and lower latency is hardly noticeable in modern computers. Sure, you might see a difference in the DDR days, but this is 2012.
I upgraded from 8GB of CL7 RAM to 32GB of CL9 RAM (same speed) and haven't noticed a difference in performance. This is on a server-like system, though, so I get more out of the large RAM capacity at higher task loads.
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Ah, are you using an SSD in that case? RAM speeds do matter in just some categories.
kitamesume:
how much was his budget again? 3K?
imho
hexa + CF HD7950 + GT640(physx) and a stripped M4 128gb(who the hell needs 512GB of SSD space!? dump those installers onto a black drive for gods sakes!) = under 3K >,> just sayin. with a simple IVB i7-K though it'll drop down to around $2.5K =D
although GTX670 SLI would be the most cost effective =P.
(click to show/hide)[CPU] - [$569.99] Intel Core i7-3930K Sandy Bridge-E 3.2GHz Six-Core Desktop Processor
[Cooler] - [$89.99] Noctua NH-D14 SE2011 140mm and 120mm SSO CPU Cooler
[MOBO] - [$269.99] ASRock X79 Extreme6/GB LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
[GPU] - [$399.99] GIGABYTE GV-N670OC-2GD GeForce GTX 670 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16
[GPU] - [$399.99] GIGABYTE GV-N670OC-2GD GeForce GTX 670 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16
[RAM] - [$359.99] G.SKILL Ripjaws Z Series 64GB (8 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
[SSD] - [$109.99] Crucial M4 CT128M4SSD2 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
[SSD] - [$109.99] Crucial M4 CT128M4SSD2 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
[HDD] - [$169.99] Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB 7200 RPM 64MB SataIII 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
[HDD] - [$169.99] Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB 7200 RPM 64MB SataIII 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
[PSU] - [$164.99] CORSAIR HX Series HX850 850W 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
[CASE] - [$119.99] NZXT Phantom PHAN-001WT White Steel / Plastic Enthusiast ATX Full Tower Computer Case
[ODD] - [$89.99]Pioneer Black 4MB Cache SATA Internal BD/DVD/CD Writer BDR-207DBKS
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[TOTAL] - [$3,024.87] did i miss somethin? lols
edit: overkill units aside, a single GTX670 paired with an IVB i7 can max it out, 16GB(2x8GB 1600mhz) and a raid-0 128gb M4 would be a great candidate for performance boosts, plus leaving room for extra ram sticks for later on. also ram speeds over 1600mhz is irrelevant now a days, before they were necessary for overclocking since the FSB was tied to them, aside from benchmarks and other heavy programs theres hardly anything that scales well with ram speeds over 1600mhz to justify the extra premium on them.
storage wise two 2TB blacks in raid-1 would have both performance and reliability although overkill. extra storage can be afforded via WD reds 2TB in raid-5, they arent as reliable as blacks though.
PSUs on the other hand, single GPU units wouldnt eat anywhere near 500watts unless you're running one with an overclocked i7-3930K though this would only push it to about 600watts, double GPUs would only need roughly 600watts and again 800watts with an i7-3930K in it.
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http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/pc-building-overclocking-buyers-guide,3277-15.html
--- Quote ---Q3 2012 $2000 PC Components
Processor Intel Core i7-3930K (Sandy Bridge-E): 3.2 GHz Base, 3.8 GHz Maximum Turbo Boost, 12 MB Shared L3 Cache $570
Graphics EVGA 02G-P4-2670-KR: GeForce GTX 670 2 GB (Standard) $400
Motherboard ASRock X79 Extreme4: LGA 2011, Intel X79 Express $225
Memory G.Skill F3-1600C8Q-16GAB: DDR3-1600 C8, 4 GB x 4 (16 GB) $115
System Drive Mushkin MKNSSDCR240GB-DX: 240 GB, SATA 6Gb/s SSD $200
Storage Drive Western Digital AV-GP Green WD20EURS: 2 TB, 5400 RPM Hard Drive
$117
Optical Asus BW-12B1ST: 12x BD-R, 16x DVD±R, 2x BD-RE $90
Case NZXT Phantom 410 Gunmetal $100
Power Seasonic SS-850HT: ATX12V V2.3 80 PLUS Silver $130
CPU Cooler Scythe Mugen 3 Rev. B SCMG-3100 $55
Total Cost $2002
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--- Quote ---Q2 2012 $2000 Enthusiast PC Components
Processor Intel Core i7-3770K (Ivy Bridge): 3.5 - 3.9 GHz, 8 MB Shared L3 Cache $350
Graphics Asus GTX680-DC2T-2GD5: GeForce GTX 680 (Factory O/C) $540
Motherboard ASRock Z77 Extreme6: LGA 1155, Intel Z77 Express $175
Memory G.Skill F3-1600C8D-8GAB: DDR3-1600 C8, 4 GB x 2 (8 GB) $58
System Drive Mushkin MKNSSDCR120GB-MX: 120 GB, SATA 6Gb/s SSD $120
Storage Drive Seagate Barracuda Green ST2000DL003: 2 TB, 5900 RPM Hard Drive
$120
Optical Lite-On iHAS124-04: 24x DVD±R, 12x DVD±R DL $18
Case Antec Nine Hundred w/USB 3.0 $100
Power Seasonic X750 Gold SS-750KM: ATX12V V2.3 80 PLUS Gold $160
CPU Cooler Zalman CNPS12X $100
Total Cost $1741
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Freedom Kira:
--- Quote from: Tatsujin on August 23, 2012, 04:35:15 AM ---Ah, are you using an SSD in that case? RAM speeds do matter in just some categories.
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Good call. I am. But so is this guy.
raandomer:
--- Quote from: MalusSciurus on August 20, 2012, 12:58:14 AM ---CPU: i7 3770k Ivy Bridge
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HT can lower fps for a few games, and for most games it give no benefits. Money is better spent getting a 3570k
--- Quote ---CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-L12
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never really been a fan of down blower style hsf, goes against case flow most of the time. I'd go with a silverarrow or d14 if you dont mind having a massive hsf or just grab a h80 if you want a neater look (but you'll need to swap out the loud oem fans)
--- Quote ---Mobo: ASUS P8Z77-V PRO
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decent board, should do you fine
--- Quote ---RAM: G.SKILL Ares Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3 1866
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crazy overkill for a gaming pc, but ram is dirt cheap so why not
--- Quote ---GFX Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 680 4GB
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get a 670 with a 680 pcb (the default 670 board is disgusting), will perform similar to a 680 once clocked
--- Quote ---SSDs: SAMSUNG 830 Series MZ-7PC256D/AM 2.5" 256GB x 2
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I dont see why you would need more that 256gb for a boot drive, even with a super steam account, just go with 256gb, also raiding is a stupid idea for most consumer level pc
--- Quote ---HHD: Seagate Barracuda ST3000DM001 3TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache
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here is where your suppose to dump all your stuff
--- Quote ---PSU: CORSAIR HX Series HX850 850W
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good psu
--- Quote ---Case: Corsair Obsidian Series 650D
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if you want the best air cooling case (without sounding like a jet engine) I'd recommend a rv02-e (gaming look) or ft02 (sleek look). But with 3k+ budget i dont see why you wouldnt go all out and get a x2000f (this is the rolls royce of cases)
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