Problem seeding - warned status

[Garlantec]

Good Day everyone,

I've got a little issue with my torrent client and was hoping you guys could help me out here.

I've downloaded this torrent's files from Coalgirls:

http://bakabt.me/167186-mawaru-penguindrum-720p-flac-coalgirls.html

and since my status changed to warned yesterday, I'm working on seeding some stuff here via getting the original files from the actual groups.

All good and fine but for some reason the torrent of which's link I just posted, wouldn't check for the files.
I put the path to where the folder is located, it's exactly named as the torrent is and the files are exactly the same aswell.
And yet whenever I force-Check again, it only gets to like 2-4% and then just stops.
What am I doing wrong?

Anyway, have a nice day!

Later
Garlantec

[Van.]

Are you sure that files are not corrupted? Try to check their CRC.

[Garlantec]

Are you sure that files are not corrupted? Try to check their CRC.

How do I do that? Also, all of'em run just fine, I downloaded them via IRC from the Group.. don't see why they'd be corrupted.

Edit:

If by CRC you mean those numbers, contained in each file's name, they're absolutely identical.

[Bob2004]

A CRC code is basically a number that can be calculated by performing some algorithm on the file. If the file is changed even slightly, the CRC will be completely different - so it's a good way of checking the file isn't corrupted anywhere. The number in the filename is the CRC value it's supposed to have, so just download a CRC Checker (Google should help here, since I can't remember the names of any off the top of my head), run it on the files, and check the CRC is the same for all of them.

Corruption shouldn't normally be a problem with Bittorrent, since it does its own hash checking, but I suppose it is possible there might be one or two differences between the torrents, perhaps - so CRC checking might help identify those.

[Garlantec]

A CRC code is basically a number that can be calculated by performing some algorithm on the file. If the file is changed even slightly, the CRC will be completely different - so it's a good way of checking the file isn't corrupted anywhere. The number in the filename is the CRC value it's supposed to have, so just download a CRC Checker (Google should help here, since I can't remember the names of any off the top of my head), run it on the files, and check the CRC is the same for all of them.

Corruption shouldn't normally be a problem with Bittorrent, since it does its own hash checking, but I suppose it is possible there might be one or two differences between the torrents, perhaps - so CRC checking might help identify those.

Thanks for the answer, did the test, no difference.

The numbers are completely fine.

I've noticed something else though.

After I added the torrent to my client, (was logged in), I still can't find it under the "Active torrents" tab in my profile.
Could that be the cause? If so, how do I resolve the problem?

[zherok]

Did you download the torrent while logged in? If not, then your key isn't tied to the torrent. Just redownload the torrent while logged in if that's the case.

[Garlantec]

Did you download the torrent while logged in? If not, then your key isn't tied to the torrent. Just redownload the torrent while logged in if that's the case.

I did, I even tried re-adding it multiple-times, didn't work.

I also removed one of my other Shows from my client and tried re-adding, they worked just fine, the file check finished and it started seeding again.

[Freedom Kira]

Whether or not you were logged in when you downloaded the torrent is irrelevant, if you're not starting the torrent.

Try following this procedure exactly.

1. Copy or move the complete files somewhere.
2. Remove your torrent from the client, along with all downloaded data (tell your client to remove the data, don't delete it yourself). Ensure that the data was removed from the filepath you expected.
3. Grab the torrent from BBT, or if you're certain you did this fine before, skip this step.
4. Add your torrent file in the client normally, as if you were going to start a download. Stop the torrent as soon as it starts downloading.
5. Go to the somewhere you chose in step 1 and go into the folder. Copy the files (not the folder itself) into the corresponding download folder. Make sure you overwrite exactly 24 files.
6. Force re-check, and start.

If at step 2, your data was not removed from the expected filepath, you have been downloading to a different location.
If at step 5, you did not overwrite exactly 24 files, at least one of the files has a different filename for one reason or another.

[Garlantec]

Whether or not you were logged in when you downloaded the torrent is irrelevant, if you're not starting the torrent.

Try following this procedure exactly.

1. Copy or move the complete files somewhere.
2. Remove your torrent from the client, along with all downloaded data (tell your client to remove the data, don't delete it yourself). Ensure that the data was removed from the filepath you expected.
3. Grab the torrent from BBT, or if you're certain you did this fine before, skip this step.
4. Add your torrent file in the client normally, as if you were going to start a download. Stop the torrent as soon as it starts downloading.
5. Go to the somewhere you chose in step 1 and go into the folder. Copy the files (not the folder itself) into the corresponding download folder. Make sure you overwrite exactly 24 files.
6. Force re-check, and start.

If at step 2, your data was not removed from the expected filepath, you have been downloading to a different location.
If at step 5, you did not overwrite exactly 24 files, at least one of the files has a different filename for one reason or another.

Not working, now I noticed something else though when checking the tracker tab,

it says that because I'm warned, I can't download stuff, I knew that already, but maybe it does HAVE to start for the torrent to get activated?

Could that be the cause?

Will it only be added to the activated list if it at least downloads a bit? Cuz this one doesn't download anything at all, no start.
If it's the case, that I can't even add torrents, just for seeding purposes, I must say it's an utterly stupid system.
Right now I got some torrents on seeding, but it's so slow, it might take me ages, just to catch up with the Ratio.
What would happen, if I had only one torrent on seed which had 500 seeds and only 2 leechers? Would that mean I'd have to rely on that one alone to EVER get back on track with my ratio? Sounds really stupid to me.

Correct me if I'm wrong.
And please spare me the "You should've better taken care of your ratio from the beginning" stuff, it won't help me solve this problem, nor do I need anyone's preaching.

Good Day.
Garlantec

PS.

Donations are hardly ever open either, so that's not an option.

[Bob2004]

You are wrong. You can always seed torrents even when warned, but only complete torrents. So, if the files you have are slightly different to those in BBT's torrent, then the changed bits require re-downloading - therefore, the torrent is considered incomplete, and the tracker prevents you from connecting. This is because there's no way for the tracker to differentiate between someone who is actually downloading, and someone who is just seeding the partial torrent.

Is the torrent's status listed as seeding or downloading, once you've force re-checked it? If it's downloading, then you don't have all the files of the BBT release, and that's why it won't seed. If it's seeding, then clearly there's some stranger problem at work here.

[Garlantec]

You are wrong. You can always seed torrents even when warned, but only complete torrents. So, if the files you have are slightly different to those in BBT's torrent, then the changed bits require re-downloading - therefore, the torrent is considered incomplete, and the tracker prevents you from connecting. This is because there's no way for the tracker to differentiate between someone who is actually downloading, and someone who is just seeding the partial torrent.

Is the torrent's status listed as seeding or downloading, once you've force re-checked it? If it's downloading, then you don't have all the files of the BBT release, and that's why it won't seed. If it's seeding, then clearly there's some stranger problem at work here.

I really hope, I'm wrong and this is just some minor issue.

About your question, whenever I force-check, the check gets to like 4% and then suddenly just stops.
I haven't been able to figure out why it's doing that.

Edit:
And to say it once again, I got the files from the IRC of the Group Coalgirls, they're completely fine, I did CRC checks on them, all numbers are correct and according to the torrent's files.

Edit:
I want to check something, could anyone get this torrent:

http://bakabt.me/167186-mawaru-penguindrum-720p-flac-coalgirls.html

And copy paste the folder name which the torrent creates for the files?
You only have to DL some KBs till the client creates a folder for the torrent, I need the name of the folder.

PS.
@Bob,
define, what you mean by "complete torrents". Does that include the torrents being added to my active list? Cuz as of now, the torrent's nowhere to be found in my profile.

[zherok]

Mawaru_Penguindrum_[Coalgirls][1280x720_Hi10P_Blu-Ray_FLAC]

Shouldn't matter though, since you can set the folder a torrent works from. I rename all of my folders for naming consistency. So long as the file content is the same (and looking at the torrent and my own Coalgirls copy of Mawaru Penguindrum, they should be) it works fine.

Have you tried loading the Coalgirls torrent? You can verify file integrity that way. Then you'd stop it and use the bakabt torrent again. If that doesn't work, the only thing I could think is that the tracker won't let you download things it doesn't have you reported to have finished while warned.

[Garlantec]

Mawaru_Penguindrum_[Coalgirls][1280x720_Hi10P_Blu-Ray_FLAC]

Shouldn't matter though, since you can set the folder a torrent works from. I rename all of my folders for naming consistency. So long as the file content is the same (and looking at the torrent and my own Coalgirls copy of Mawaru Penguindrum, they should be) it works fine.

Have you tried loading the Coalgirls torrent? You can verify file integrity that way. Then you'd stop it and use the bakabt torrent again. If that doesn't work, the only thing I could think is that the tracker won't let you download things it doesn't have you reported to have finished while warned.

Yep I just checked with the CG torrent, it works perfectly fine and the force-check's positive aswell..

Seems like the worst-case's happening after all, Can't add new torrents to seed due to the warned status.

What a load of bull.*sigh*

The whole thing should be a bit revamped to make seeding a tad easier.

Oh well, thanks for all the help guys

So Long
Garlantec

PS.
One last question:
My Ratio was 0,044 when I got warned, now it's at 0,113.. what does it have to be, to get rid of the warned status?

[Al_Sleeper]

~0.1
Be a bit more patient.

[Freedom Kira]

If you're certain you did everything right, there could be a problem with the torrent file on BBT as well.

All you said in response to me was "not working," though, so it's hard to say where the problem is. It would have been nice if you laid out in full exactly what you did.

And like Bob said, you can "add new torrents to seed" while you are warned. You simply have to have 100% of the files complete. The issue seems to be on your end for that particular torrent because of the recheck issue. Try a different directory, perhaps with a shorter path?

[Garlantec]

Whether or not you were logged in when you downloaded the torrent is irrelevant, if you're not starting the torrent.

Try following this procedure exactly.

1. Copy or move the complete files somewhere.
2. Remove your torrent from the client, along with all downloaded data (tell your client to remove the data, don't delete it yourself). Ensure that the data was removed from the filepath you expected.
3. Grab the torrent from BBT, or if you're certain you did this fine before, skip this step.
4. Add your torrent file in the client normally, as if you were going to start a download. Stop the torrent as soon as it starts downloading.
5. Go to the somewhere you chose in step 1 and go into the folder. Copy the files (not the folder itself) into the corresponding download folder. Make sure you overwrite exactly 24 files.
6. Force re-check, and start.

If at step 2, your data was not removed from the expected filepath, you have been downloading to a different location.
If at step 5, you did not overwrite exactly 24 files, at least one of the files has a different filename for one reason or another.

If you're certain you did everything right, there could be a problem with the torrent file on BBT as well.

All you said in response to me was "not working," though, so it's hard to say where the problem is. It would have been nice if you laid out in full exactly what you did.

And like Bob said, you can "add new torrents to seed" while you are warned. You simply have to have 100% of the files complete. The issue seems to be on your end for that particular torrent because of the recheck issue. Try a different directory, perhaps with a shorter path?

I did exactly as you told me, except for Point 4 for, which wasn't possible to accomplish due to being warned and Downloading not starting at all, as stated here:

Not working, now I noticed something else though when checking the tracker tab,

it says that because I'm warned, I can't download stuff, I knew that already, but maybe it does HAVE to start for the torrent to get activated?

And as far I'm informed, the download needs to start for the torrent to even create a folder for it, let alone the pre-finished .mkv files.

Not working = no change to the situation

I relocated the files, I cleared the torrent and downloaded files which never existed by the way, made sure there was nothing left in the initial path and then started re-adding, and linking the path to the new directory. No difference at all.
With all other torrents, which are also in my "Active List" on BakaBT, whenever I put in the new path, it asks me, if I want to overwrite, that's not the case with this problem-torrent though.
There's no reaction to the directory change whatsoever, despite the files being in there.
Also, the force-check still wouldn't work afterwards.

[ConsiderPhlebas]

And as far I'm informed, the download needs to start for the torrent to even create a folder for it, let alone the pre-finished .mkv files.

You can configure decent clients to pre-allocate all files before anything is downloaded. Then you can stop the torrent, replace with files that actually have content (DL from somewhere else), force a re-check, and start seeding.

[Freedom Kira]

I did exactly as you told me, except for Point 4 for, which wasn't possible to accomplish due to being warned and Downloading not starting at all, as stated here: (snip)

What he said ^. I set my client to pre-allocate files, so it kinda slipped my mind. This is the best way to do it - when you start a torrent, it first creates all the files with junk data in the exact necessary filesize. When the status of the torrent changes to "downloading," you would stop it and replace all the junk files with your complete files and force a re-check.

Pre-allocation helps prevent fragmentation (mostly on NTFS filesystems; Linux filesystems generally don't have this problem) and having to stop torrents that are downloading when you run out of disk space.

Sorry that it was unclear; hope this makes sense now.

[Garlantec]

You can configure decent clients to pre-allocate all files before anything is downloaded. Then you can stop the torrent, replace with files that actually have content (DL from somewhere else), force a re-check, and start seeding.

Woohoo, it worked!

Thanks a bunch Phlebas!

And thanks for trying Kira :>

My Ratio's about to hit 0,2.. I'm gonna be alright, I guess.

So Long
Garlantec