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kureshii:
--- Quote from: Tatsujin on May 04, 2014, 10:53:55 AM ---
--- Quote from: kureshii on May 04, 2014, 10:35:33 AM ---1) In this case FREENAS8 is your server OS. By “server OS” I meant literally whichever OS you are using for your NAS; I did not mean “server-edition OS”.
2) No. You plug in your NAS like any normal PC, i.e. to the incoming ports. The outgoing port is meant to go to your modem. Your NAS provides access to files and services running on it, it does not provide internet access.
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I think we're misunderstanding each other. I know NAS won't provide internet (duh) since basically it is specifically designed for hosting storage. Here is the modem that I have. There's that single port to the far left, that one is where I plug the cable from the Internet modem to spread it across the other four ports to the right. So I would replace the right cable with the one from NAS to spread it across to the other four ports? Or do I need another modem?
My computer also has one ethernet connection. I'm not sure how to work around this problem. I don't want to install another addon inside the computer, either. Is there a way around it?
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The port on the leftmost is plugged in to something that provides internet connection (to all the devices plugged into the other four ports). Whatever is plugged in to the four ports on the right will be connected to each other; they will be able to see each other on the same private LAN (under Network Connections in Windows). So you plug in both your desktop and your NAS on the right, along with whatever network printers and other LAN devices you have.
If you have more than four such devices, you need to plug in a network switch (or a router in bridge mode) to one of the ports on the right, to provide more LAN points.
Tatsujin:
--- Quote from: kureshii on May 04, 2014, 11:09:36 AM ---
--- Quote from: Tatsujin on May 04, 2014, 10:53:55 AM ---
--- Quote from: kureshii on May 04, 2014, 10:35:33 AM ---1) In this case FREENAS8 is your server OS. By “server OS” I meant literally whichever OS you are using for your NAS; I did not mean “server-edition OS”.
2) No. You plug in your NAS like any normal PC, i.e. to the incoming ports. The outgoing port is meant to go to your modem. Your NAS provides access to files and services running on it, it does not provide internet access.
--- End quote ---
I think we're misunderstanding each other. I know NAS won't provide internet (duh) since basically it is specifically designed for hosting storage. Here is the modem that I have. There's that single port to the far left, that one is where I plug the cable from the Internet modem to spread it across the other four ports to the right. So I would replace the right cable with the one from NAS to spread it across to the other four ports? Or do I need another modem?
My computer also has one ethernet connection. I'm not sure how to work around this problem. I don't want to install another addon inside the computer, either. Is there a way around it?
--- End quote ---
The port on the leftmost is plugged in to something that provides internet connection (to all the devices plugged into the other four ports). Whatever is plugged in to the four ports on the right will be connected to each other; they will be able to see each other on the same private LAN (under Network Connections in Windows). So you plug in both your desktop and your NAS on the right, along with whatever network printers and other LAN devices you have.
If you have more than four such devices, you need to plug in a network switch (or a router in bridge mode) to one of the ports on the right, to provide more LAN points.
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Wow, that's why I see the other ethernets on my network ... makes sense now! Nice, I didn't know that. So now I understand what you mean by "forwarding" the NAS port that's plugged inside of it. Well, that cuts down a lot of trouble.
I've asked a question up there just now about the addon card.
And I'll re-do the equipment really quick and show it off here.
kitamesume:
--- Quote from: Tatsujin on May 04, 2014, 09:13:35 AM ---@ kita - can you set up a list for me then? I can also install an add-on with SATA 6GB connections to it? I mean, looking at the FreeNAS8 software and all, would it be able to recognize add-ons? And what case would you recommend? I'd rather keep the DF-85 for my next build.
Edit - Yeah the more I look at it the more I want to stay away from pre-built NAS. That guide I posted is pretty easy to do. Plus I'm purchasing WD Reds which is very reliable for NAS.
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it would effectively depend on the add-on card and the OS if they support each other, but from what i recall so long as the add-on card supports linux it should work.
which? the 4~6 drive itx build? or a 10drive atx build?
example builds
(itx) http://pcpartpicker.com/user/kitame/saved/4zuJ
(atx) http://pcpartpicker.com/user/kitame/saved/4zvS
notes: i can't seem to find an atx case with decent drive bays, you'll have to choose your own.
Tatsujin:
Yeah, can't find something with lots of bays. So this FREENAS8 is a linux OS? I thought it was an independent different OS from the others?
Anyone find any good bays, about 8 of them, in a case?
How about this one? Can you get a motherboard and the specific PSU for it?
Here's something quick:
8-bay case
SFX PSU (there's only two SFX PSUs ;/ ... this is the good one based on reviews)
RAM 4GB
AsRock ITX mobo has 4 SATA ports, still need four more probably from a card..
Intel Pentium G3220 Haswell 3.0GHz
So now the question is if I can get an addon card and if the OS can support it. Can Windows 8.0 do NAS-server like or no?
kureshii:
Your NAS should only need one LAN port, so I don't think you need other addons. Unless it doesn't have enough SATA ports, then you may need some SATA controller cards.
[Edit] Just in case you were talking about SATA controllers, you should probably check to see taht the controller is supported under BSD (don't assume!). In general, Sil3124-based controllers have pretty good out-of-the-box support in both Linux and BSD, but you need to do your own research on specific products (because if anything breaks, you are the first line of defense and you had better know what went inside it...).
FreeNAS is BSD-based, so it shares some "heritage" with Linux. Other BSD-based OSes include OSX. You’re unlikely to find “independent different OSes” in consumer devices these days, almost all the new ones run some flavour of Linux.
Regarding that Silverstone case, keep in mind that it supports only ITX boards (i.e. nothing microATX or larger), and most ITX boards I know have up to 4 SATA ports. Some older ones (earlier-chipset boards) may have up to 6. So you’ll definitely need a SATA controller addon for 8 disks... and then where are you going to connect your system disk (if it isn't one of the 8)? And ITX boards only have one PCIe slot, so you can't use 2 controllers.
You're going to need a larger motherboard/case unless you're okay with those limitations (or with blowing your budget with a hardware RAID card that has more than 4 ports).
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