Author Topic: Future Computer Parts / General Computer Discussions (Read 46736 times)

Tatsujin · « **Reply #1440 on:** June 26, 2014, 01:22:53 AM »

^ Hmm, not my cup of tea yet. 1GB is fine for now. 10GB is ... maybe when 4K becomes more mainstream.

So I was thinking of what Google should really do about computers ... I really want them to develop a real OS that can compete on Windows OS level. I know there are those Chrome books or whatever but they're not as good and reliable as Windows and they don't have a wide variety of third party support.

kitamesume · « **Reply #1441 on:** June 26, 2014, 03:52:52 AM »

yeah 1Gbit is fine for 1080P and the likes, but streaming uncompressed 60Hz 4K would need an entire 10Gbit line and might even be not enough.

edit: well at least we got something to look forward to, i hope they'd become as dirt-cheap as today's gigabit NICs that're priced well below $50.

Mistgun_Zero · « **Reply #1442 on:** June 27, 2014, 08:23:18 AM »

I want ARES III. ;__; Damn thing looks so cool. I would say it costs at least less than Titan Z.

Tatsujin · « **Reply #1443 on:** June 27, 2014, 09:04:18 PM »

Quote from: Mistgun_Zero on June 27, 2014, 08:23:18 AM

I want ARES III. ;__; Damn thing looks so cool. I would say it costs at least less than Titan Z.

Oh yea, speaking of that, whatever happened to GTX 790? I wonder if they're going to release that.

kitamesume · « **Reply #1444 on:** June 27, 2014, 09:15:18 PM »

they already did? though its TitanZ instead of 790.

noted that 790 are supposedly two full GK110 die which is what the TitanZ is.

edit: i'm still waiting for a card which is as fast as or faster than the GTX770 for $250, hopefully it comes with 4GB minimum vram otherwise it'd be far too insufficient for 4K...

Tatsujin · « **Reply #1445 on:** June 27, 2014, 09:22:20 PM »

Quote from: kitamesume on June 27, 2014, 09:15:18 PM

they already did? though its TitanZ instead of 790.

noted that 790 are supposedly two full GK110 die which is what the TitanZ is.

edit: i'm still waiting for a card which is as fast as or faster than the GTX770 for $250, hopefully it comes with 4GB minimum vram otherwise it'd be far too insufficient for 4K...

What the fuck, that 3,000 USD card? That's stupid man. It takers three slots, it uses a lot of wattage and dispenses a lot of heat. Fuck that.

kitamesume · « **Reply #1446 on:** June 28, 2014, 01:54:17 AM »

Quote from: Tatsujin on June 27, 2014, 09:22:20 PM

Quote from: kitamesume on June 27, 2014, 09:15:18 PM
they already did? though its TitanZ instead of 790.

noted that 790 are supposedly two full GK110 die which is what the TitanZ is.

edit: i'm still waiting for a card which is as fast as or faster than the GTX770 for $250, hopefully it comes with 4GB minimum vram otherwise it'd be far too insufficient for 4K...
What the fuck, that 3,000 USD card? That's stupid man. It takers three slots, it uses a lot of wattage and dispenses a lot of heat. Fuck that.

what would you expect? you can't have everything, and speaking of power-hungry hot-card 295x2 is hotter than TitanZ.

Tatsujin · « **Reply #1447 on:** June 28, 2014, 03:26:38 AM »

Quote from: kitamesume on June 28, 2014, 01:54:17 AM

Quote from: Tatsujin on June 27, 2014, 09:22:20 PM
Quote from: kitamesume on June 27, 2014, 09:15:18 PM
they already did? though its TitanZ instead of 790.

noted that 790 are supposedly two full GK110 die which is what the TitanZ is.

edit: i'm still waiting for a card which is as fast as or faster than the GTX770 for $250, hopefully it comes with 4GB minimum vram otherwise it'd be far too insufficient for 4K...
What the fuck, that 3,000 USD card? That's stupid man. It takers three slots, it uses a lot of wattage and dispenses a lot of heat. Fuck that.
what would you expect? you can't have everything, and speaking of power-hungry hot-card 295x2 is hotter than TitanZ.

AMD is out of question on every level. They're just not going to learn how to invest their money on R&D and push better than Nvidia.

And Titan BE's only good point is that huge 6GB video ram. The 880 GTX 4GB is great and features some better stuff than the Titan BE but it's not going to beat it in some gaming categories.

This is a hard decision. I'm still waiting for the 880 to come out and maybe they'll come out with a double video ram in a single card, on a single chip.

Mistgun_Zero · « **Reply #1448 on:** June 29, 2014, 01:25:05 AM »

Just saw 49'' LG 4K TV. It costs around $1650 and seemed freaking awesome. And pretty affordable too. Prices are coming down aye!!! Tatsu, keep watch and order a ARES card for yourself. You will do good with it.

EDIT: It's $1500 in US. Damn you guys, you always have it cheap. And it's a IPS display, if that's important. Model is Lg UB8500

kitamesume · « **Reply #1449 on:** June 29, 2014, 01:58:29 AM »

Quote from: Mistgun_Zero on June 29, 2014, 01:25:05 AM

Just saw 49'' LG 4K TV. It costs around $1650 and seemed freaking awesome. And pretty affordable too. Prices are coming down aye!!! Tatsu, keep watch and order a ARES card for yourself. You will do good with it.

EDIT: It's $1500 in US. Damn you guys, you always have it cheap. And it's a IPS display, if that's important.

60Hz or 30Hz? most of the cheap IPS 4K are 30Hz, which is kinda iffy.
can't google it if you dont give the model#

Mistgun_Zero · « **Reply #1450 on:** June 29, 2014, 02:07:58 AM »

LG UB8500. It's 120 Hz display, it seems......

kitamesume · « **Reply #1451 on:** June 29, 2014, 02:10:03 AM »

IPS and 120Hz? and 4K on top of that? sounds like a first ever and worth $10000
i'm not kidding though, 120Hz IPS doesn't exist yet and LG should be proud.

Mistgun_Zero · « **Reply #1452 on:** June 29, 2014, 02:16:25 AM »

It's Tru-Motion 120 Hz, but might be marketing. (since I know that 120 Hz doesn't exist on IPS yet. )

But since I have seen it in person, it seems to be at least 60 Hz, cause it's super-smooth. I would have bought it on spot if I had that much in pocket at that point. In any case, it seems to be a job well done indeed and they should be pretty proud of it in any case.

kitamesume · « **Reply #1453 on:** June 29, 2014, 04:52:24 PM »

no progress, a boring month and the next too, september though would be a fest.

lololitas · « **Reply #1454 on:** June 29, 2014, 05:05:27 PM »

Well you can buy ARM-servers now: http://www.apm.com/products/data-center/x-gene-family/x-gene/

But yeah, aside from that and crytek being broke there is nothing really interesting happening

kitamesume · « **Reply #1455 on:** June 29, 2014, 05:17:39 PM »

well i'm digging up sites for something to read atm, well for now lets just look at this in dismay.

http://wccftech.com/broadwell-launching-k-series-unlocked-processors-coming-second-quarter-of-2015/

to point out, since skylake will use a different architecture, its highly likely that i'd be incompatible with LGA1150, ugh decisions...

lololitas · « **Reply #1456 on:** June 29, 2014, 05:43:59 PM »

Wasn't it confirmed that intel would introduce LGA 1151 for skylake? I thought the thing left to the rumours was whether the socket would support DDR4

Tatsujin · « **Reply #1457 on:** June 29, 2014, 06:23:59 PM »

Quote from: lololitas on June 29, 2014, 05:43:59 PM

Wasn't it confirmed that intel would introduce LGA 1151 for skylake? I thought the thing left to the rumours was whether the socket would support DDR4

Haswell-E will be the first one to support DDR4. I don't know which socket Skylake will support. I keep thinking of wanting to build a new computer with Haswell-E but seeing that Broadwell has better features then I might as well wait for Skylake-E. Hmm, that should be two years from now and 4K monitors should be more affordable by then.

lololitas · « **Reply #1458 on:** June 29, 2014, 06:32:48 PM »

Yeah, but haswell-E runs on 2011-3 not 1150. The question is whether it will support DDR4 for mass-market non-enthusiast builds. Even broadwell is only confirmed DDR4 for broadwell-EP and -EX

kitamesume · « **Reply #1459 on:** June 30, 2014, 01:09:28 AM »

it wasn't brought up whether they'd go with LGA1551 on skylake, no news about adopting DDR4 with skylake yet as well.

in any case its really is a hard decision, grab broadwell-K or grab skylake-S, broadwell-K will be overclockable thats for sure but my only goal is 4.0Ghz.
but from skylake, if theres one with a stock clock of 3.6Ghz, turbo should reach 4.0Ghz, though turbo is unreliable.

on the other hand i'm more interested in which chips broadwell and skylake will be having an eDRAM built into the chip, that might be a deciding factor.

edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skylake_%28microarchitecture%29
http://wccftech.com/intel-14nm-skylake-leak-multiple-edram-configurations-desktop-variant-tdp/
well that answers my questions, i'll dig a bit more.
well thats as much as i can dig about skylake, no clocks too, booo?

it bothers me though, why they still hadn't tried going with an i3 with GT4e, i mean that'd open up a large market on the lower sections.
well though theres their driver problems for the IGP but none the less who wouldn't want a hyper-efficient chip that can out-perform AMD APUs at the same cost?

edit: i wish they'd make MATX boards with the primary PCIEx16 on the 3rd slot, imho the first two slots would better off be used for soundcards or other peripherals, plus it opens up space for extra-large heatsinks.
the only possible way to do this is using an SLI compatible board for 8/8, although crossfire non-sli boards would also work you'd be using x4 of 16/4 which is just retarded...

http://techreport.com/news/26314/asrock-bay-trail-d-boards-come-in-mini-itx-microatx-form-factors
ok tempting, it recently appeared locally for roughly $80 cash.
someone needs to try and slap an R7-250 or GT740(GDDR5) in it and test whether it stutters like fuck in DOTA2 or LoL, and maybe BF4 in 1280x720 res.