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Mistgun_Zero:
--- Quote from: Honemi on July 14, 2014, 08:58:11 PM ---I'm surprised you didn't mention the Petabyte Endurance test, Kitamesme. Though, I guess it is about a month old now.
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Interesting. I would to se Intel 730 series (cause they are said to be damn reliable) and Samsung EVO 850 (to see how those vertical NAND hold up)
Tatsujin:
--- Quote from: Mistgun_Zero on July 15, 2014, 06:16:32 PM ---
--- Quote from: Honemi on July 14, 2014, 08:58:11 PM ---I'm surprised you didn't mention the Petabyte Endurance test, Kitamesme. Though, I guess it is about a month old now.
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Interesting. I would to se Intel 730 series (cause they are said to be damn reliable) and Samsung EVO 850 (to see how those vertical NAND hold up)
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What's with the vertical NAND?
luchina:
^It's the inevitable future. Read anandtech review on it. he explains what it is all about.
Honemi:
--- Quote from: kitamesume on July 14, 2014, 10:36:05 PM ---didn't see this one when i back read a month's worth of reports, so yeah.
and lol, i guess staying away from samsung 840 non-pro is a good idea.
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I wouldn't discount the Samsung 840. Surviving up to 200TB without any significant errors (albeit in a more ideal environment) is pretty good for a consumer drive. Though, the little review does make trusting Samsung Magician a little hard.
--- Quote from: Tatsujin on July 14, 2014, 11:00:46 PM ---So basically Corsair Neutron GTX is the king. The Samsung Pro is behind it. Well, that's not too bad. I THINK?!
I don't know. I don't use the EVO or Pro for anything really. I don't even think I've even hit 1TB on either.
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Yeah. I was kind of surprised to see Corsair's Neutron GTX doing so well.
I am kind of surprised that it was the Samsung drive that shat itself and died out of nowhere instead of, well, any other drive in the test. I'd assume the drive wouldn't given ample warning before it failed.
--- Quote from: kitamesume on July 15, 2014, 03:41:36 AM ---it depends, they haven't gone through some other products like intel's 330, 530, 710 or 730 series, OCZ's, plextor's nor crucial's offerings.
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--- Quote from: Mistgun_Zero on July 15, 2014, 06:16:32 PM ---Interesting. I would to se Intel 730 series (cause they are said to be damn reliable) and Samsung EVO 850 (to see how those vertical NAND hold up)
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The testers didn't include some drives like the Crucial M500 because its SMART data doesn't include an attribute for total write written.
Still, after they kill the last three drives, I do plan to ask them to test some newer drives, especially the newer Samsung 850 Pro with its 3D V-NAND.
I do think that the Intel and Crucial do have an advantage up on Samsung in the reliability area. Intel and Crucial actually ship drives with power loss protection.
Anyway, beyond TechReport, there is Tweaktown's little experiment, this guy's endurance test for the 840 Pro, SSD Endurance Test which seems to be stopped unfortunately, and the thread that started the testing.
In case this wasn't posted earlier, Samsung is planning to release some TLC-based drive for enterprises. Well, rerelease an OEM model to the public. AnandTech's article here.
AMD seems to be gearing up to create a solution to Intel's Iris Pro iGPU. TechReport.
--- Quote from: kureshii on July 15, 2014, 10:44:22 AM ---
--- Quote from: Honemi on July 14, 2014, 08:58:11 PM ---Any of you guys heard of this Tango PC? It's a laptop that fits in your pocket (without the screen and other stuff we like about laptops). It's priced like a laptop, too. Well, they compare it more to a desktop. Here's their successful Kickstarter for more information. It should be able to play older and less intensive PC games with its iGPU especially at HD (~1280x720) resolutions.
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Sounds closer to the 'nettop' category than laptop-without-a-screen. (Think "desktop" version of netboks)
For that price, right now I'd rather have it be Atom-based and come with a much lower TDP. Something like this. Really interesting that they're going with Dockport though, considering
* Dockport spec was only out in June this year.
* They plan to ship in Nov this year, effectively only giving 5 months for ironing out manufacturing issues and testing with the spec
* Linux does not officially have Dockport support yet, and I haven't heard of any Dockport drivers for Windows either. I wonder how they are doing their testing … or if they're testing with software/hardware combinations other than what's in their videos.
I don't like shitting on people’s parades, but if this is just an early-to-market version of a Dockport-enabled nettop that’s competing solely on specs, I don’t see much of a future to it, assuming it even delivers, on time. It’s a great idea—that VESA expects other manufacturers to pick up soon enough.
Just to be clear, I really do like the idea. I’ve gone from mATX to mini-ITX to Thin-ITX with each successive generation of upgrades. My next upgrade will probably be some thing with Dockport or some similar docking intention, but not something like this.
How could we compress a bulky PC to a cellphone size? We moved the bulky connectors, the bulky fan and the bulky heat sink into the docking port. {tl;dr we made the PC useless on its own; please buy our docking stations!}
^ This part I especially hate. If you look at the VESA Dockport spec, it basically allows power and data over a single cable. Tango transferred heat-dissipating capability from the main chassis/heatsink into the dock, essentially making it useless on its own, which isn't the point of Dockport—it's supposed to be a flexible power+data spec that enables devices to function on their own, or with expanded connectivity and power charging when docked.
With the need for dock-provided heat dissipation, the Tango basically requires users to buy the PC together with its proprietary docks. No thanks.
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I guess I wasn't looking at it too hard because I sure thought it would be possible to use it without a dock. And I also way overestimated the APU in my initial post. Kind of lowers the functionality significantly. Guess we'll have to stick with NUCs and Eee Boxes nettops 'til CPU and iGPU technology advances further.
Tiffanys:
--- Quote from: Honemi on July 14, 2014, 08:58:11 PM ---Also, it seems like a Titan 2: Electric Boogaloo is in our future.
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It's interesting that they're calling it the Titan 2... I thought the Titan Black was effectively the Titan 2. Hm... weird.
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