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Tatsujin:

--- Quote from: Honemi on July 30, 2014, 06:51:54 PM ---I guess the real appeal of the NUC is that you can get Ultrabook grade processors in an UCFF class device. If Intel's iGPU were (much) better, the NUCs could be decent Steam Machines for 720p gaming. Still, lots of people find the smallness attractive in a device, but don't want to be stuck with a VIA processor or want build their own pico-ITX computer.


I misread the article. Mullins has a SDP of ~3W and a TDP of 4.5W. I don't think Intel specified the TDP of their Silvermont Atoms.

Anyway, the article does present a few test results between the A10 Micro-6700T (top Bullins chip) and the Z3740 (Bay Trails-T, Slowest Quad-Core). For the most part, AMD offers the faster CPU, and as usual, A10 Micro-6700T's iGPU trounces Z3740's. Still not good enough to offer a playable experience at 720p on even the lowest settings. It's all their in the article. Unfortunately, the Tech Report guys didn't have the chance to test battery life or put it through more extensive benches; it was just a generic tablet that AMD was showing off.

As long as the battery life isn't bad, this could be a nice little short-term win for AMD. However, it seems tablets have reached their saturation point and is falling, or at least they have according to the CEO of Best Buy.


AMD has released the developer's kit of their ARM server processor.


Anandtech reviews the Intel SSD 2500 Pro. It is just the 530 with hardware encryption and vPro support. Well, it is also notable for being Intel's first SSD to feature NAND from SK Hynix.


Logitech releases another mouse in their Gx02 line. This time it is their G402 Hyperion Fury. Review here.

This is after their G502 Proteus Core which, by all indication, is a good mouse if it fits your hands. That came with a new sensor that certainly reviewed well.

The G602 has been out for a minute. It's the wireless mouse that can last for a few months on a pair of AA batteries.

Man, I really want to like this new line of mice, but they all so ugly.


Haswell-E is soldered onto the IHS instead of glued on with thermal adhesive. That'd be helpful for overclockers.


Last and least, Microsoft have released Shark Cove, a mini pc in a similar vein to Raspberry Pi. It costs $299, so I don't see this taking off.

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G600 is much better. Still no dust or finger prints - at all. Never cleaned it. No dust around the edges or inside the buttons (buttons are tucked together anyways). Buttons never got stuck. Buttons never wore off. Feels like first day I had it. Beautiful colors, nice weight, lots of buttons and extremely accurate sensitivity.

xShadow:
One thing that's nice about the G602 is it looks like it's optical as well as wireless.. While playing BL2 and other FPS's I think I've noticed my G600 kinda being wonky sometimes... or I don't know, it just kind of feels like... something is off. These days I also don't play many MMORPG's. And honestly, I've kind of been waiting for a really competent wireless gaming mouse as I can feel the resistance from the cord (I game on very low DPI, so feeling the damn cord scrape against shit is annoying), so it looks tempting.

Hell I mean it's only 50 bucks on Amazon, I think I might try it out... though considering the first review on it is from November 2013 I don't understand how it's only been out "for a minute".

On the other hand those buttons look awfully close together and I kind of dislike mice with buttons that are right beside the clicker. The other thing that worries me is some people mentioning longevity of the construction.

Still, tempting.

Also, M550 1tb is currently 400$ on Amazon. Great price.

Edit: Fuck, I was faster with my wallet than it took to actually think this thing through. Here comes the G602, with 2 day free shipping.

Honemi:
^^ "Out for a minute" = "Been out for a while" It was colloquial expression. My bad.

When the G602 came out, I didn't think Logitech was replacing the Gx00s series, but they are. And from the looks of it, the Gx02 series are supposed to map to their Gx00(s) counterpart. I guess we'll see if they come out with another MMO mouse under a different number. It'd be odd if they don't since even Roccat has their Tyon.


One more story from me today. AMD has released a FAQ for FreeSync. It looks like we can be expecting the first FreeSync monitors nearer Christmas time. Unfortunately, the full feature set only works with GCN 1.1+ graphics cards, and only AMD's Radeon HD 7000 and up cards even partially support FreeSync.

SweClockers has an interview(ish) with a member of AMD.

I'm skeptical that NVIDIA or even Intel will adopt FreeSync in the near future.

kitamesume:

--- Quote from: Honemi on July 30, 2014, 06:51:54 PM ---I guess the real appeal of the NUC is that you can get Ultrabook grade processors in an UCFF class device. If Intel's iGPU were (much) better, the NUCs could be decent Steam Machines for 720p gaming. Still, lots of people find the smallness attractive in a device, but don't want to be stuck with a VIA processor or want build their own pico-ITX computer.


I misread the article. Mullins has a SDP of ~3W and a TDP of 4.5W. I don't think Intel specified the TDP of their Silvermont Atoms.

Anyway, the article does present a few test results between the A10 Micro-6700T (top Bullins chip) and the Z3740 (Bay Trails-T, Slowest Quad-Core). For the most part, AMD offers the faster CPU, and as usual, A10 Micro-6700T's iGPU trounces Z3740's. Still not good enough to offer a playable experience at 720p on even the lowest settings. It's all their in the article. Unfortunately, the Tech Report guys didn't have the chance to test battery life or put it through more extensive benches; it was just a generic tablet that AMD was showing off.

As long as the battery life isn't bad, this could be a nice little short-term win for AMD. However, it seems tablets have reached their saturation point and is falling, or at least they have according to the CEO of Best Buy.
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NUCs still far too expensive, its better to buy a compact laptop and use it as a dock-in unit.


intel didn't put TDP for tablet socs because it wouldn't work well with marketing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silvermont
you can extrapolate it with the mobile versions though, which puts the 4C at 6W TDP, and 2C at 4W TDP.
or basically roughly 1W per core and 2W for GPU.

TDP still have little use for measuring power draw though, its not exactly power draw but average or ideal heat dissipation in watts.
thats why its "thermal design power".

have you seen this yet though?
http://hothardware.com/Reviews/AMD-Beema-and-Mullins-Mainstream-and-LowPower-2014-APUs-Tested/?page=1

with this intel has a direct competitor.
i hope intel at least bumps CPU frequency to 2.4Ghz/3Ghz-turbo along with 16EU of 8th gen IGP on next-gen atom.
but the heat and wattage...

Mistgun_Zero:

--- Quote from: xShadow on July 31, 2014, 12:02:56 AM ---Edit: Fuck, I was faster with my wallet than it took to actually think this thing through. Here comes the G602, with 2 day free shipping.

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let us know what you think of it. And how is for MMORPG and RPG's with the programmable buttons and it's wireless performance (especially in FPS since that is where lag is really noticeable.)

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