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2012 US Presidential Election
AceHigh:
--- Quote from: vicious796 on September 25, 2012, 02:26:36 PM ---I've never considered removing NASA from the fed...
It may come as a shocker from me, but I don't think I like the idea. It may make me sound more hippy than you're used to, but I honestly believe space exploration and advances in the sciences are something that should be shared among the people. We reap the benefits of it as a whole and we should pay the price together. As such, it's only natural that the fed have organizations like NASA to promote scientific advancement and, honestly, should be at the receiving end of some of the DoD's money.
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After a thought, I also support a scientific programme that benefits all, somehow I just forgot to realize that NASA comes in a big package.
So to modify my statement: the launch control in Houston, bearer rockets and pretty much everything that has to do with research and development to get stuff up there, could be private. Basically a shuttle service to space. NASA could be the customer and focus on the scientific advancement in space.
sdedalus83:
--- Quote from: AceHigh on September 25, 2012, 05:54:09 PM ---So to modify my statement: the launch control in Houston, bearer rockets and pretty much everything that has to do with research and development to get stuff up there, could be private. Basically a shuttle service to space. NASA could be the customer and focus on the scientific advancement in space.
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That's exactly what their focus has been for the last few years.
AceHigh:
Well, it's on the right track then and should not be fixed if it's not broken.
Also what is really weird is a statement like this:
--- Quote ---"has put the space program on a path where we are conceding our global position as the unequivocal leader in space,"
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Now we all know the USSR actually won the space race (by launching first ICBM, satellite, animal in space, man and woman in space, spacewalk, manned long duration flight and satellite around the moon about space race) only losing in manned moon landing in which USA declared themselves winners, only to witness the launch of a successful series of USSR orbital stations in which Mir was the undefeated champion of space stations until scrapped.
Also as far as we have seen USA has also stopped going for new "I am first" accomplishments in space after USSR collapse. In fact now that American corporations are using Russian Soyuz rockets to send their satellites into orbit because it's cheaper and the safety record is better, implies that a statement like "we are leaders in space" is nothing more than deceitful boast. Then again those are usual in pre-election speeches too.
surdumil:
Russia also won the business case race. Russia provides a solid for-profit satellite delivery service.
The U.S., on the other hand, is constantly hampered by witless political budgeting issues and a military that can't keep their nose out.
NASA and JPL are doing some great scientific research, but they're definitely not self-supporting.
If your satellite provides functionality that the U.S. military doesn't approve (like high-resolution imaging or high-resolution navigation) then satellite delivery is refused and you need to shop around, usually to Russia or ESA or even China.
vicious796:
--- Quote from: AceHigh on September 25, 2012, 05:54:09 PM ---
--- Quote from: vicious796 on September 25, 2012, 02:26:36 PM ---I've never considered removing NASA from the fed...
It may come as a shocker from me, but I don't think I like the idea. It may make me sound more hippy than you're used to, but I honestly believe space exploration and advances in the sciences are something that should be shared among the people. We reap the benefits of it as a whole and we should pay the price together. As such, it's only natural that the fed have organizations like NASA to promote scientific advancement and, honestly, should be at the receiving end of some of the DoD's money.
--- End quote ---
After a thought, I also support a scientific programme that benefits all, somehow I just forgot to realize that NASA comes in a big package.
So to modify my statement: the launch control in Houston, bearer rockets and pretty much everything that has to do with research and development to get stuff up there, could be private. Basically a shuttle service to space. NASA could be the customer and focus on the scientific advancement in space.
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You've essentially explained, word for word, the Obama plan - which I fully support but would like more funding to go to - a lot more funding. And, to your next post on it, you're right - it's not broken, don't "fix" it.
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