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2012 US Presidential Election
Monkeyfinger:
^ Is your name Julio?
jaybug:
I wish someone would take the president to task for his payroll tax cut, which costs people later their retirement benefits.
Saved the US? Any idiot president should be able to do that, but there is a difference between America not being in another Great Depression, and America having an economic boom. Obama will at best have US in a French malaise, forever.
Not that Romney will be able to do much better, as long as he is unwilling to fight congress. Obama needed to fight Pelosi and Reid instead of going along with every stupid policy they could dream up, especially as they didn't even know what they were passing, until after the bills were passed.
America is still one of the fastest growing countries on the planet. To have US in economic malaise, will actually feel more like a permanent recession, or depression because of the increasing population. 8% unemployment becomes a very large number when you account for the increase in population. 8% of 100 million is 8 million, 8% of 400 million is 32 million. Still 8%, but a 400% increase from the previous mark.
I did especially like the remark Romney alluded to senator Coburn's Back in Black report, to consolidate government services to reduce the overhead costs of government, so that more people can be served with the same level of federal spending. Or could potentially survive budgetary cuts without sacrificing services as badly when there are so many redundant agencies paralleling jobs.
Which is a large part of why I think Romney picked Ryan.
vicious796:
Missed the VP debate last night, watching now at http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/debates/vice-presidential-debate though. So far, some 15 minutes in, Biden is being Biden and it's quite comical. He's good, don't misunderstand that as me saying he's flunking, but you'd think he'd... you know... tighten up a bit and be more serious on the national stage.
Lord of Fire:
--- Quote from: vicious796 on October 12, 2012, 12:47:26 PM ---Missed the VP debate last night, watching now at http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/debates/vice-presidential-debate though. So far, some 15 minutes in, Biden is being Biden and it's quite comical. He's good, don't misunderstand that as me saying he's flunking, but you'd think he'd... you know... tighten up a bit and be more serious on the national stage.
--- End quote ---
I think it's just him being unable to take a guy who spouts nonsense like 'forced rape' and then flip-flops about his stance on abortion, among other things, seriously. Can't say I blame him, and it's at least a step up from Obama's passiveness in his debate.
Now, if Obama finds a way to be both assertive and counter Romney's ramblings, he'll have a better chance at winning his next debate and might score a bit better in the polls (though how much they truly make a difference is questionable).
xfreidax:
Didn't Romney manage to level with Obama on various polls based on his first debate performance?
There seems to be a very perceivable shift from what I've been observing. At least in the reporting.
He went from dead and buried with the LOL47% comment to now we have a contest.
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