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2012 US Presidential Election
vicious796:
--- Quote from: xfreidax on October 12, 2012, 05:57:40 PM ---Didn't Romney manage to level with Obama on various polls based on his first debate performance?
There seems to be a very perceivable shift from what I've been observing. At least in the reporting.
He went from dead and buried with the LOL47% comment to now we have a contest.
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The polls represent the entire nation's undecided voters which, in all honesty, don't really decide the debate. There's only a dozen or so states that aren't already spoken for and Obama only has to win 3-4 of them in order to get the electoral votes needed to win. Let's be clear - Romney still doesn't have a chance. He's not winning Virginia or Ohio which will essentially be the nails in the coffin for him.
Ixarku:
Jon Stewart also went on at length about the unreliability of the various polls, since apparently some of them show Mitt in the lead, others show Obama in the lead, and still others show them to be virtually tied.
I still think it's a foregone conclusion that Obama is going to win it. As contraversial a President as he is, it's sad that Romney is the best the opposition party could come up with.
Nikkoru:
Romney has, at least with that debate, probably prevented himself from becoming a totally under-performing candidate. What Obama did was further weaken the prospects for other Democratic candidates who conceivably have a chance in November. Which -- given the politics of the last two years -- does not bode well for Obama's next term.
jaybug:
I believe the Biden act was an act. Meant to be disparaging and demeaning to the Romney/Ryan ticket. But as Ryan didn't cave, I don't think it worked as well as he hoped. Unless Biden thought he was on the old CNN Crossfire show, and thought he was supposed to yell over anyone else who was talking.
Maybe Ryan was too respectful of the office, but there were a couple of places I thought he could have interjected something to offset Biden's 'stuff'.
Soryon:
--- Quote from: Lord of Fire on October 12, 2012, 05:40:54 PM ---I think it's just him being unable to take a guy who spouts nonsense like 'forced rape' and then flip-flops about his stance on abortion, among other things, seriously. Can't say I blame him, and it's at least a step up from Obama's passiveness in his debate.
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I think its not that he changed his personal views so much as that he is conforming to Romney as his head honcho. He is the VICE. Hes has said in the past that he has to back him even if its not the exact same view that he has. Its not a flip flop.
Actually, I should stfu. I havent even watched the VP debate yet even tho I have it recorded. My statement was regarding things in the past. If he said something that implied he actually changed his personal opinion, rather then simply saying that he would go with Romney view, then its not a big deal.
Anyway- For this election, to quote South Park- Is between a giant douche and a turd sandwich.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMGu4pbivkY
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