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2012 US Presidential Election

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Tiffanys:
The US political system is based on a delegate system. So even if a high population state had a 49.4% to 49.6% vote the entire x number of delegates get awarded to whoever won even by that tiny margin.

I hate the delegate system personally. It means your vote doesn't even matter if you don't live in a "battleground" state. Pure red or pure blue states, good luck as the opposite party. Your vote means literally nothing.

If we're going to assign delegates, it should actually be based on the votes. If a state has 20 delegates and the vote is like the initial example, then it maybe it should be split like 11/9 delegates rather than 20/0. Makes more sense that way. But overall, the entire delegate system to begin with just seems really stupid. If it's to prevent certain states from dominating the election by having way more votes due to their populations, then well... that already happens with the delegates. Maybe it's not quite as bad with delegates though. Since California, Texas, New York, & Florida would pretty much control the election.

Still think proportional representation would be better than a winner-take-all system... but ah, whatever.

Candidate I voted for won. Didn't even bother watching it later than ~9-10pm last night. After Romney lost his backup state and was starting to get such a narrow possible route to victory and Florida's only counties left to count their votes were all strong blue counties... I knew how the race was going to go. Didn't feel like watching reporters dick around for 3 or 4 more hours while waiting for the inevitable to happen.

Wasn't all that surprised to see Obama win with a 100 delegate lead when I woke up. Was a little surprised to see pot was legalized though lol... wth.

vicious796:
I'm with Tiff on a few things, actually. After they called PA to Obama, I turned it off. PA was crucial to Romney and he had no shot in hell without it (not that he had a shot, anyway). Furthermore, elections really should be by popular vote, now, and not the electoral college. We have the technology and since the 2000 election, the popular vote has always been very close.

As was mentioned before, nothing changed on the federal level. Our only hope is that Congress saw how thrilled Americans were to see President Obama working closely with Governor Christie in New Jersey and that they understand WHY. Nobody gives a shit what party sponsored you - fucking work, asshole. Do your job.

The big "wins" last night were from the two issues I tend to lean liberally on - drugs and marriage (oh, how closely intertwined you are). Though I still don't understand gay people biologically and don't support their marriage economically, socially and ethically I couldn't be more for it. Talking with my wife about it, if/when it becomes a voting cause in Virginia, I'm going to vote for it. Sure, the taxes don't make sense and it goes against biology but that's not their fault and it's not their choice. As such, there's no good reason to prevent them from inheriting the fortune (or lack thereof) that they spent a lifetime building with their significant other. There's no reason to prevent them from being with their partner on their deathbed. The latter actually makes me sick to my stomach.

"Legalizing" marijuana in 3 states for recreational use is also a big win. Of course, federal law supercedes state but those states can and will actively decriminalize it and set a solid example for how to stop overcrowding our jails and ruining peoples lives over a recreational drug.

Tiffanys:
By the way... Obama's victory speech really sucked, didn't it? I mean, save for the last like 30 seconds or so of the 20 minute ordeal.

And the crowd, most of them looked tired and irritable like they just wanted to go home. You didn't see anything remotely like the energy we saw in '08. Though... I can't say I expected to, either. Wasn't a Hope & Change election. Was more like... Vote for this guy and hope he's more consistent than this other douchebag.

I almost feel bad for Conservatives - they're just so out of touch. Though, "almost"... should probably be stressed. Cause I don't. I mean, lol I'm not exactly very subdued about how I feel on the matter... Hell, that could probably be a thread all on its own. I'm sure it'd enrage some people into a furor. Alas, I digress from that.

Still, disappointing speech though.

vicious796:

--- Quote from: Tiffanys on November 07, 2012, 01:40:08 PM ---By the way... Obama's victory speech really sucked, didn't it? I mean, save for the last like 30 seconds or so of the 20 minute ordeal.

And the crowd, most of them looked tired and irritable like they just wanted to go home. You didn't see anything remotely like the energy we saw in '08. Though... I can't say I expected to, either. Wasn't a Hope & Change election. Was more like... Vote for this guy and hope he's more consistent than this other douchebag.

I almost feel bad for Conservatives - they're just so out of touch. Though, "almost"... should probably be stressed. Cause I don't. I mean, lol I'm not exactly very subdued about how I feel on the matter... Hell, that could probably be a thread all on its own. I'm sure it'd enrage some people into a furor. Alas, I digress from that.

Still, disappointing speech though.

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Meh, the far right is no more or less crazy than the far left, they just get more attention for some reason. Aside from marriage and marijuana, I'm rather conservative. Well, Libertarian is probably a better description but that fits more with "conservative" than "liberal" in America, today.

For every idiot that believes creation should be taught as science with evolution there's an equally idiotic man or woman who believes the government should regulate our intake of soda. Unfortunately, those idiots are in office in various places around the country.

Semnae:

--- Quote from: AceHigh on November 07, 2012, 06:43:05 AM ---However seeing this stupid 50 - 49 result every fucking time in US election concludes that US election is rigged. There is nothing natural about these results.
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The numbers make sense when you consider that just a 1% difference is a difference of about 1,168,000 votes. A 2% victory is a solid victory, and a 3% victory is a landslide.

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