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2012 US Presidential Election
occasional:
--- Quote from: vicious796 on November 07, 2012, 01:50:37 PM ---For every idiot that believes creation should be taught as science with evolution there's an equally idiotic man or woman who believes the government should regulate our intake of soda.
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The latter is far more reasonable than the former, as it's a possible way to address a real problem.
Burkingam:
--- Quote from: occasional on November 07, 2012, 05:51:37 PM ---
--- Quote from: vicious796 on November 07, 2012, 01:50:37 PM ---For every idiot that believes creation should be taught as science with evolution there's an equally idiotic man or woman who believes the government should regulate our intake of soda.
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The latter is far more reasonable than the former, as it's a possible way to address a real problem.
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This and I'm pretty sure there are more people in the former category than in the latter as a matter of fact.
Edit: and I'm not too sure people who want to regulate sodas are all left leaning. After all, prohibition has always been associated with the right.
AceHigh:
By the way there is a true democratic progress within a US territory right now. Apparently Puerto Rico is holding a referendum where people vote if they want to become the 51st state, keep the status quo, or become completely independent. So far it looks like it swings towards it becoming a state, so if the US congress approves it, USA just might have to change their flag design again.
zherok:
--- Quote from: AceHigh on November 07, 2012, 03:34:25 PM ---Math works only when you add all the factors. After adding factors like interests of ethnic groups, social classes and other factors relevant to a demographic, it actually becomes very odd and unbelievable that it would go 50/50.
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It's only odd if you don't bother to examine how the demographics break down. All of these factors are in play. Consensus is much more pronounced when factoring for ethnicity, social class, or just where you live (take a look at some of the states and see a handful of urban centers carry an otherwise conservative state.)
The more conservative majority group ("Angry white guys," married white women, etc.) currently offset the Democratic leaning minority groups for the most part. Well, not enough to keep the Democrats from winning. And the momentum is clearly with Democrats at the moment. Minority groups will continue to grow larger while the majority isn't reproducing fast enough to keep pace. The Republican party will have to become more accommodating and lean more leftward to adapt (I recall hearing an Australian say that even their conservative groups assume socialized medicine), or continue mining out the diminishing returns of pandering to their increasingly fringe base.
Monkeyfinger:
The only consolation is republicans still have a firm grip on the House. Gotta stave off cap n tax for 4 more years. In other news, I lost 5% on my investments today =(
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