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2012 US Presidential Election
Ixarku:
I've read several articles today on why the election turned out the way it did, and as far as demographics go, the prevailing thought seems to be that the majority of white male voters went for Romney while the majority of other demographic groups more or less went with Obama, and it was the latter groups that brought enough votes to Obama for him to win it. CNN in particular seemed to take great glee at pointing out that the aforementioned 'other demographic groups' are projected to continue to grow, rendering the current target demographic of the Republicans less and less relevant over time.
In other words, the Democrats appear to be appealing more and more to women, minorities, and young folks, while the Republicans base isn't growing significantly. I think that CNN is probably exaggerating to some degree, but if the Republicans learn the lesson from this election and start shifting more towards center, to appeal to a broader base, I hope it will actually benefit the country in the long run. I don't think extremism in either direction is good for a population the size & diversity of that in the U.S.
Monkeyfinger:
--- Quote from: Ixarku on November 07, 2012, 10:11:30 PM ---I've read several articles today on why the election turned out the way it did, and as far as demographics go, the prevailing thought seems to be that the majority of white male voters went for Romney while the majority of other demographic groups more or less went with Obama, and it was the latter groups that brought enough votes to Obama for him to win it. CNN in particular seemed to take great glee at pointing out that the aforementioned 'other demographic groups' are projected to continue to grow, rendering the current target demographic of the Republicans less and less relevant over time.
In other words, the Democrats appear to be appealing more and more to women, minorities, and young folks, while the Republicans base isn't growing significantly. I think that CNN is probably exaggerating to some degree, but if the Republicans learn the lesson from this election and start shifting more towards center, to appeal to a broader base, I hope it will actually benefit the country in the long run. I don't think extremism in either direction is good for a population the size & diversity of that in the U.S.
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Reagan crushed the opposition running on conservative principles and did considerably better than Romney in every single demographic. Romney lost running as a milquetoast moderate. Can anyone actually articulate 3 issues that Romney ran on, that he would do to attract voters? No, all we got was watered down tax cuts. I believe that if a candidate ran on truly conservative principles, in the classical liberalism sense of the word, they would win.
AceHigh:
--- Quote from: Ixarku on November 07, 2012, 10:11:30 PM ---I don't think extremism in either direction is good for a population the size & diversity of that in the U.S.
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Too late, your "left" is actually right, and your right are fundamental religious zealots.
No, seriously though what is not good is for a "population of that size and diversity" (your words btw) to be represented by only two parties which are close in the political spectrum.
You know what, that logic of yours has some merit, because it explains why China only has one party. After all it's not good for the most populous country in the world with hundreds of ethnic groups to have any "extremism". So only one party right there in the middle (from their point of view at least) is exactly what they need.
This is ridiculous, I'm going to bed...
Ixarku:
--- Quote from: AceHigh on November 07, 2012, 11:16:22 PM ---Too late, your "left" is actually right, and your right are fundamental religious zealots.
No, seriously though what is not good is for a "population of that size and diversity" (your words btw) to be represented by only two parties which are close in the political spectrum.
You know what, that logic of yours has some merit, because it explains why China only has one party. After all it's not good for the most populous country in the world with hundreds of ethnic groups to have any "extremism". So only one party right there in the middle (from their point of view at least) is exactly what they need.
This is ridiculous, I'm going to bed...
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How in the hell did you get that I advocated one party from what I wrote? Jesus fucking Christ, leap to conclusions much? All I'm in favor of is a little god damned political compromise so that maybe our politicians could actually try to solve some problems instead of just argue about ideology.
Nikkoru:
This and this pretty much explains all you need to know about the American political system.
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