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AceHigh:

--- Quote from: Tiffanys on November 09, 2012, 01:23:46 PM ---wtf! I only use MSN... I hate Skype! asldfjkalsfdj#)$*#$@#&$(*#&

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Skype is superior, deal with it.

Also, is anyone surprised that the rest of the world would rather have a democrat? Less chance that the world will be bombed after all. On that account ideally I would want Ron Paul to win, because that suits my agenda.

Nikkoru:
I'd rather see myself elected, that suits my agenda.

Monkeyfinger:
Heh Burk what you call "caring about people" I call "the government sticking its fingers in everything." You and those like you want the government to carry you from the cradle to the grave. And minorities? We've been sucking up to them for years. How's that working out for the blacks and hispanics? Ever hear the old adage: Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for life.

And I am well aware that unions file under a different status than religious, but unions are still exempt from federal income taxes. They are funding political campaigns on your dime. Well, at least we can agree that those millionaire pastors should rot in hell. Still doesn't mean religious groups should pay income taxes. Your average pastor probably makes a fair middle class wage if you take housing stipends into account. Plus that still doesn't answer the whole free exercise issue.


--- Quote from: Burkingam on November 09, 2012, 12:36:05 AM ---
And if you understood anything of Keynesian economics you'd stop complaining about the deficit under Obama. When there is an economic crisis increasing the states expenditures despite the deficit is the responsible thing to do and just like fighting the deficit is the responsible thing to do when the economy is going well. If you understood that, then you'd understand why Obama has had the biggest deficits in the middle of an recession and why Clinton had more or less the only equilibrated budgets in the last few decades when the economy was going well. You'd also understand just how incompetent republicans have been, digging the deficit even when the economy is going well and using the recession as an excuse for more austerity.

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If you knew anything about Keynesian economics you'd know that there are volumes of literature criticizing it (along with many well known critics like Hayek and Friedman). What we're doing today isn't even Keynesian economics. Hell, Keynes himself warned of too much stimuli. So how much is too much, after another $700 billion can we try something else?

Burkingam:

--- Quote from: Monkeyfinger on November 09, 2012, 11:34:35 PM ---Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for life.

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Yeah I'm well aware of this adage. Now tell me monkeyfinger, how exactly do conservatives teach people to take care of themselves? Because last time I checked, advocating for cheap education is a defining characteristic of the left, not the right. Perhaps the conservative version of the adage would be "If you see a man starving to death on the street, go complain to the police that he's loitering and then brag to your liberal neighbor about how today you fed a men for life."

jaybug:
Tiffs, I'd like to see that poll to include Ron Paul, and maybe anyone else. Who would they want as our president?

And how many of them would write Charles Manson just for spite?


Burk, I lol with you. The church I grew up in, and about as liberal as you can get and still be a church, used that fish slogan. That is one thing I agree with you. Conservatives are all about saving babies, but as soon as they need school, they would put them in coal mines instead, saying it would build character or some dumb ass thing like that.

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