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2012 US Presidential Election
Ixarku:
--- Quote from: Monkeyfinger on November 10, 2012, 12:29:15 PM ---I'll do that when the democrats stop yapping about how they saved GM and how Obama created 2 million jobs.
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Again, you're over-generalizing. Do you really think every Democrat or liberal believes everything that comes out of the Obama administration? I'll give you a hint -- we don't. If you think we do, you're just buying into a different angle of the media hype.
Burkingam:
According to Monkeyfinger's definition of democrats, I don't think anybody here is one.
Ixarku:
--- Quote from: Burkingam on November 10, 2012, 01:16:10 PM ---According to Monkeyfinger's definition of democrats, I don't think anybody here is one.
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WHY CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG.
Oh well, fuck it. I just hope the whole 'fiscal cliff' bullshit gets worked out before year end. If the tales are true, it's not going to hurt me as badly as it will some people, but it would be nice to have enough money next to take another trip next year as I've planned.
Nikkoru:
--- Quote from: Ixarku on November 10, 2012, 01:06:31 PM ---
--- Quote from: Monkeyfinger on November 10, 2012, 12:29:15 PM ---I'll do that when the democrats stop yapping about how they saved GM and how Obama created 2 million jobs.
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Again, you're over-generalizing. Do you really think every Democrat or liberal believes everything that comes out of the Obama administration? I'll give you a hint -- we don't. If you think we do, you're just buying into a different angle of the media hype.
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I don't see how they're comparable, intellectually or practically. Whether or not I believe those events occurred the way the Obama administration describes them is indicative of nothing, really. It's simply an assessment of facts, skewed perhaps towards a partisan end, but Monkeyfinger is perpetrating the same thing through the tone of cynicism in his criticism.
Besides, how exactly are American businesses under Republicans so different? Have the Republicans not perpetrated subsidies, bailouts, free trade, and corporate welfare in general? It seems to me the only people that Republicans believe that the government owes are corporations.
I believe corporations do owe their employees a living -- and that the government has been making sure they get it.
Burkingam:
--- Quote from: Nikkoru on November 10, 2012, 01:51:15 PM ---I believe corporations do owe their employees a living -- and that the government has been making sure they get it.
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Kinda. Not enough IMO. Certainly not if it was only for conservatives seeing how they are generally all about reducing or banning minimum wages.
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