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Offline Burkingam

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Re: 2012 US Presidential Election
« Reply #60 on: September 12, 2012, 12:18:57 AM »
Burk is testing testes? What? A taste test of testes? A tantalizing test of tasty testes!

Tastes great!

Less filling!

Gargle, rinse, repeat.
Ever licked a girl's vagina, Jaybug? A dick tastes about the same thing. Smells like sex, tastes like sex, mystery solved, now you know. Nothing special. It's almost boring. At least women are cute when they squirm.
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Re: 2012 US Presidential Election
« Reply #61 on: September 12, 2012, 12:21:46 AM »
Thread successfully derailed.  You're all welcome.
 
I've had so much seriousness going on lately, that no matter what thread I read, I can only think of ridiculous off-topic things to say.
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Re: 2012 US Presidential Election
« Reply #62 on: September 12, 2012, 12:24:09 AM »
Vagina is full of Lactobacillus acidophilus. Testes and penises should not have any fermenting bacteria on them. lol
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Re: 2012 US Presidential Election
« Reply #63 on: September 12, 2012, 12:30:02 AM »
Thread successfully derailed.  You're all welcome.

The thread title is: 2012 US Presidential Election

Right now we are loudly discussing penises. I don't see how this thread is derailed.
« Last Edit: September 12, 2012, 01:25:09 AM by AceHigh »
For one thing, Tiff is not on any level what I would call a typical American.  She's not what I would consider a typical person.  I don't know any other genius geneticist anime-fan martial artist marksman model-level beauties, do you?

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Re: 2012 US Presidential Election
« Reply #64 on: September 12, 2012, 12:36:15 AM »
Vagina is full of Lactobacillus acidophilus. Testes and penises should not have any fermenting bacteria on them. lol
Do you seriously put your tongue in? Dude, gross!! Just suck her clit off and after a while put a finger in and stroke. It'should do the trick.


The threat title is: 2012 US Presidential Election

Right now we are loudly discussing penises. I don't see how this thread is derailed.
Exactly what I wanted to say, except I would have used the word "dicks".
« Last Edit: September 12, 2012, 12:41:02 AM by Burkingam »
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Re: 2012 US Presidential Election
« Reply #65 on: September 12, 2012, 01:34:18 AM »
Yeah, penises was during Clinton's terms in office. Not since Jack Kennedy have we had to talk about penises and the president, other than using Dick to describe them. Of course Nixon was a dick, as well as being Dick.

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Re: 2012 US Presidential Election
« Reply #66 on: September 12, 2012, 01:53:42 AM »
Thread successfully derailed.  You're all welcome.

The thread title is: 2012 US Presidential Election

Right now we are loudly discussing penises. I don't see how this thread is derailed.

The point is yours, sir.
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Re: 2012 US Presidential Election
« Reply #67 on: September 12, 2012, 02:53:32 AM »
So if we keep talking about penises, will that derail Slick Willie's attempts at boosting Obama's re-election efforts? Ask him again and again if he had sex with that woman, Ms. Lewinsky.

To derail, we should ask him if he has sex with his wife. yikers! lol
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Re: 2012 US Presidential Election
« Reply #68 on: September 12, 2012, 03:05:05 AM »
It all depends on how you formulate a statement. If done correctly, then Lewinsky "conquest" will resonate in our male hearts and make him a hero. I don't know why you keep bringing that up like something bad. Are you really that much of a "traditional family values" moralfag?
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Re: 2012 US Presidential Election
« Reply #69 on: September 12, 2012, 03:22:43 AM »
If done correctly, then Lewinsky "conquest" will resonate in our male hearts and make him a hero.

That was a bit like conquering France in 1940, hardly heroic.

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Re: 2012 US Presidential Election
« Reply #70 on: September 12, 2012, 03:27:48 AM »
Voting for Obama again, with the whole family.


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Re: 2012 US Presidential Election
« Reply #71 on: September 12, 2012, 06:12:42 AM »
I also can't accept capital punishment on the basis that the state shouldn't have that power, especially given the proven capacity for human error in the criminal justice system.
What I'm interested in is not to punish criminals but to minimize the number of deaths and suffering in general. I can justify putting criminals in jail because:
1. It protects society from people that threaten it.
2. It allows us to try to rehabilitate the criminal, to convert him into a law abiding citizen for when he's set free.
3. It act as a disincentive for crime.

In the case of a murderer, whether we kill him or we put him in jail for life will protect society against him just as well, and of course, in both cases we don't get to rehabilitate him, so the only question is does capital punishment discourage crime and is it strong enough to offset the cost of their death. Liberals say no and conservatives say yes, but in both cases I don't see much science behind their claim. What I'd like is a systematic study, trying to count every single historical cases of a society establish or banning capital punishment and in every cases see how crime rate has evolved and hopefully find out whether it works or not.

Firstly, why does it matter? We aren't infallible, but death offers no appeal -- I could cite you names that have been falsely convicted of murder but I don't think it's necessary, the point is axiomatic.

As for studies, I don't know what you're talking about. Decades of research has demonstrated that harsher sentences do not deter others from committing crimes, especially in the United States. This is not an ideological statement; it is based on evidence from numerous studies. The results are quite consistent. The punishment does not sway crime, it is only in the political discourse using public sentiment does this become an accepted truth. Unfortunately, sentiment is king as far as the "tough on crime" politics is concerned, not experts.

I suspect the major impasse is the presumption that criminals rationally believe they're going to be caught (most, in fact, do not), and whether they've considered that the sentence is 2 months or 20 years, or death prior to acting. Deterrence theory assumes rational actors will concede to reason when the possible risk is sufficiently disproportionate to whatever benefit they expect from their action, this has largely yet to be demonstrated with regards to violent crime.

Furthermore, the death penalty (and the criminal justice system in general) is also proven to be systemically racist in the United States (in Canada as well, but the issue is capital punishment).

In the U.S. white offenders who kill white people are lwo times less likely to receive a death sentence than black offenders who kill whites. Black offenders are four times more likely to get a death sentence for killing white people than black offenders who kill black people.
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Re: 2012 US Presidential Election
« Reply #72 on: September 12, 2012, 11:30:15 AM »
Not to mention a more pragmatic reason:

Death penalty is more expensive in US than life imprisonment. I know it sounds counter intuitive, but that is how it is.
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Re: 2012 US Presidential Election
« Reply #73 on: September 12, 2012, 11:51:49 AM »
Not to mention a more pragmatic reason:

Death penalty is more expensive in US than life imprisonment. I know it sounds counter intuitive, but that is how it is.

But what if the costs of the trial and appeals courts was necessary.... so if the damage this person had exceeded $50 million worth of damages? What do you say about a terrorist who blew up 3 buildings and crashed another 4th plane (along with causing the 1993 bombings of the WTC) worth of damages? Do you think the cost of 2 wars over 11 years worth of getting one person would be a little unreasonable to put a bullet into Osama's head? I really didn't think there was a chance for Osama to be able to get out of that compound alive.

But hey, did anyone hear about what's happening in northern Africa?

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Re: 2012 US Presidential Election
« Reply #74 on: September 12, 2012, 12:14:58 PM »
@Nikkoru I'm saying that I don't know, not that think Capitale punishment is a good thing. I hope you won't hold it against me if I question our lines of party.

I'm looking at the question from an utilitarian point of view. Hypothetically, if because to a disincentive it creates, we find out that more lives are saved thanks to capital punishment than lost, it would be absolutely justified even if some of the convictions are the result of a mistake and even if there is some racism in the way it's done. I'm also aware that the "disincentive" argument relies on the presumption of rationality, which is quite a shaky ground. If I had to guess I would think that murderers, as they act, usually either don't care or don't think about the consequences for them or they think they are gonna get away from it and in every cases, harsher punishments wouldn't make a difference. But of course, I'm not a murderer myself and so it's a hard for me to truly understand how a criminal think. It deserves to be studied scientifically. I'm more than ready be convinced as I learn what has already been studied.

I see the links you provided and I will look at them as soon as I get enough free time.


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Re: 2012 US Presidential Election
« Reply #75 on: September 12, 2012, 09:52:37 PM »
We should kill more people faster. Maybe then can Burk enjoy his Soylent Green in peace. lol Does that go with white wine, or red?

I think Bil was Monica's conquest. Otherwise why would Linda Tripp know so damn much about the whole bloody affair? Bill was probably used to getting to creampie, but not with her.

Obama makes sure to creampie, that or he has his litle flings done in like Vince Foster, but better hidden away, like crab bait hidden away.
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Re: 2012 US Presidential Election
« Reply #76 on: September 18, 2012, 03:41:43 AM »
So, this happened.

Romney's closed door candour was something of a refreshing turn. Like with Obama talking 'bout rural America's obsession with guns and god. The contents of the statement really don't matter to me, I'm more curious as to whether this matters in the election at this point. There's something fatalistic about it, as if everything is set in stone and they're not even bothering trying to convince the Other about their position, just a small minority of... I have no idea.

If this is all politics is down to, no wonder there are these heated battles over nonsense like voter ID laws. It saves so much effort just to subvert democracy rather than going through the messy process of examining your positions critically and trying to persuade people of your positions.

What makes it all the more depressing is that this deep chasm Romney depicted, of an unreachable gap between hardened social parasites and rugged individuals, looks like a pothole to the rest of the observant world. Like arguing between mint and winter-fresh.

If I pointed this out, which I think I have, that's one thing -- Romney doing it, it's just pathetic.
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Re: 2012 US Presidential Election
« Reply #77 on: September 18, 2012, 12:10:20 PM »
As you mentioned, Nikk, Obama has pandered to his crowds as well. It's a fundraiser for a guy going up against the man who raised more money during an election year than anyone else in history - you say what you gotta say.

Will it affect the election? Hell yes. Obama's going to bring that up at every possible turn without a second's thought. That's what I'd do if I were him and he's got advisers that are far more intelligent than I am.


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« Reply #78 on: September 18, 2012, 07:45:43 PM »
How many conservatives answer the phone, when the pollsters call? Is the percentage different, or do more independent minded people not answer the phone because they are sick and tired of robo-calls asking for money or selling crap no one wants or needs? So is the premise of a scientific poll actually not realized due to an unscientific poll being conducted? Oh, sure, within 5% +-. So it's within the statistical margin of error still that Romney could actually be ahead? I can guarantee Obama is not beyond 6 sigma of certainty of winning a second chance a making America a complete disaster area.
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Re: 2012 US Presidential Election
« Reply #79 on: September 18, 2012, 08:10:26 PM »
Very interesting chart from the Economist. Especially the one on the right.