-Urgent- Need answer and Acer VS Asus

[btpirate]

If you don't intend to use your laptop on the go and just keep it plugged in on your desk, it's recommended to bring your battery's charge down to about 40% and then remove it, seal it in a plastic bag, and store it in the warmest area in your fridge (make sure it does not freeze).

This is good idea. I keep my battery in a drawer though, normal temperature doesn't hurt it so much when half charged.

[krumm]

The biggest cause for a lithium battery to not last as long is age.  The older the battery, even if it is perfectly taken care of, the less time the charge will last.  Taking super care of a laptop battery is a pain in the ass and really does not help that much.  The best things you can do is not leaving the battery depleted(for weeks), and cooking it(like leaving it in a 100 degree car in the summer).  If it is not a problem for you to remove it when your plugged in, and fully charged go for it.  It will improve lifespan, just not much.

Doing some strange ritual to the battery when you first get it wont do anything but, waste charge cycles.  There is only a handful of things that will harm the batterys lifespan and really nothing that will save it(unless you invent a way to stop it from aging).

[megido-rev.M]

Doing some strange ritual to the battery when you first get it wont do anything but, waste charge cycles.

I call it testing while still under warranty.

[btpirate]

There is only a handful of things that will harm the batterys lifespan and really nothing that will save it(unless you invent a way to stop it from aging).

Keeping fully charged battery in hot temperature reduces it's lifespan quite fast. Example of this conditions is constant AC power usage. If you rarely take your laptop with you it's good idea to remove half charged battery. Of course it will slowly deplete and nothing prevents it from aging but removing it prevents from high temperature and 100% charge all the time. My two year old battery still has about 90% of it's capacity, I use it once a month.

[Clannad_92]

There is only a handful of things that will harm the batterys lifespan and really nothing that will save it(unless you invent a way to stop it from aging).

Keeping fully charged battery in hot temperature reduces it's lifespan quite fast

ouch!!

so, no full charge if not using battery?
about the temperature, uhhh...its hot here, to my body...

im a little worried about the battery cuz, well, this is my new laptop...

[kitamesume]

battery lifespan doesnt decay so fast you know, you'd start noticing the decay at about a year with a mediocre handling, so a careful handling should leave you with a healthy battery for a longer period.
as far as i've heard of laptop batteries, people tend to ignore them and just use it as is, they don't even notice the damage they've done until years have passed.

at worst you'd lose like 10% of the current capacity per 2months, do note that its "current capacity" which means the decay lessens as the total capacity decreases, otherwise small capacity batteries made of the same battery type would lose all of it's charge in a few uses, but it doesn't.
although if i remember correctly the rate isnt by time, but by charge and discharge cycles.

[Clannad_92]

battery lifespan doesnt decay so fast you know, you'd start noticing the decay at about a year with a mediocre handling, so a careful handling should leave you with a healthy battery for a longer period.

fuhh, thats a relief...

but should i charge it full to leave it alone or charge about 80% to 90%?
i want my new laptop to hold up to 5 years...my old laptop is 3 years old and its battery is 1hours only (aspire 4741g)...

[kitamesume]

Cell life

    Charging forms deposits inside the electrolyte that inhibit ion transport. Over time, the cell's capacity diminishes. The increase in internal resistance reduces the cell's ability to deliver current. This problem is more pronounced in high-current applications. The decrease means that older batteries do not charge as much as new ones (charging time required decreases proportionally).
    High charge levels and elevated temperatures (whether from charging or ambient air) hasten capacity loss.[48] Charging heat is caused by the carbon anode (typically replaced with lithium titanate which drastically reduces damage from charging, including expansion and other factors).[49]
    A Standard (Cobalt) Li-ion cell that is full most of the time at 25 °C (77 °F) irreversibly loses approximately 20% capacity per year. Poor ventilation may increase temperatures, further shortening battery life. Loss rates vary by temperature: 6% loss at 0 °C (32 °F), 20% at 25 °C (77 °F), and 35% at 40 °C (104 °F). When stored at 40%–60% charge level, the capacity loss is reduced to 2%, 4%, and 15%, respectively.[50] In contrast, the calendar life of LiFePO4 cells is not affected by being kept at a high state of charge.[51]

try giving this a read.

[megido-rev.M]

I summarized this in the previous page....

[Logiick]

It depends on what you want to do with the computers themselves.

ASUS is a better company, and it just makes better computers overall. But if you're looking for something simple and cheap, go with the Acer.

[megido-rev.M]

The only thing I can say about Acer is that their stuff is cheap. And apparently they make decent monitors.