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Re: iPhone 5 Is The Most Disappointing iPhone Ever?
« Reply #160 on: October 11, 2012, 12:27:33 AM »
I must have missed the joke for that one...
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Re: iPhone 5 Is The Most Disappointing iPhone Ever?
« Reply #161 on: October 11, 2012, 02:58:46 AM »
I must have missed the joke for that one...

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Re: iPhone 5 Is The Most Disappointing iPhone Ever?
« Reply #162 on: October 11, 2012, 07:44:00 PM »
Hopefully if I do I wouldn't stay up all night like Havoc did >.>;.

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Re: iPhone 5 Is The Most Disappointing iPhone Ever?
« Reply #163 on: October 11, 2012, 09:37:03 PM »
Hopefully if I do I wouldn't stay up all night like Havoc did >.>;.

here, have at it its only 9 hours. . . :P

you shall love and tolerate the Apple iPhone 5 afterwards. . .

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Re: iPhone 5 Is The Most Disappointing iPhone Ever?
« Reply #164 on: October 11, 2012, 11:14:43 PM »
Whoa, whoa. I didn't say anything about liking the iPhone 5. :o

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Re: iPhone 5 Is The Most Disappointing iPhone Ever?
« Reply #165 on: October 19, 2012, 08:24:46 AM »
I never paid much attention to the details of iPhone 5 and when I did just now, I found out that the display(and the new iPad's display) is extremely accurate out of the box, in fact it's likely to be better than what you're looking at right now. as someone who owns a wide gamut monitor(big mistake, should've gone for the sRGB 2490wuxi2) calibrated and profiled with a colormunki photo this is the kind of thing I'd love to see spreading to all displays, especially TVs.

http://www.displaymate.com/iPad_ShootOut_1.htm
http://www.displaymate.com/Smartphone_ShootOut_2.htm
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Re: iPhone 5 Is The Most Disappointing iPhone Ever?
« Reply #166 on: October 19, 2012, 07:27:31 PM »
Possibly they were calibrated beforehand as part of the fabrication.

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Re: iPhone 5 Is The Most Disappointing iPhone Ever?
« Reply #167 on: October 20, 2012, 04:29:13 AM »
Possibly they were calibrated beforehand as part of the fabrication.

Agreed.

Not to mention that these "lab tests" sounded completely biased and mostly looked at paper specs vs real world comparisons. They gave off quite the fanboy vibe.

Watch a 720p video on the S3 and you will find it looks gorgeous in true 1280x720 resolution. Coupled with a 4.8" display, it creates a far more cinematic experience then you will ever get on the iPhone.

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Re: iPhone 5 Is The Most Disappointing iPhone Ever?
« Reply #168 on: October 20, 2012, 08:47:31 AM »
Possibly they were calibrated beforehand as part of the fabrication.
Yes, it was mentioned in the articles that they were factory calibrated. That's something you don't often see, especially not on mobile devices.


Possibly they were calibrated beforehand as part of the fabrication.

Agreed.

Not to mention that these "lab tests" sounded completely biased and mostly looked at paper specs vs real world comparisons. They gave off quite the fanboy vibe.

Watch a 720p video on the S3 and you will find it looks gorgeous in true 1280x720 resolution. Coupled with a 4.8" display, it creates a far more cinematic experience then you will ever get on the iPhone.

Just because you don't understand or care about the test results doesn't mean they're biased or wrong. You can say you preferred a highly saturated and contrasted display but facts are facts. Anandtech's tests also came up with similar results: here and here.
I also find it ironic that you are playing the "who cares about numbers it's what I like that matters" card which is a classic Apple fanboy argument.
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Re: iPhone 5 Is The Most Disappointing iPhone Ever?
« Reply #169 on: October 20, 2012, 09:29:10 AM »
Not to mention that these "lab tests" sounded completely biased and mostly looked at paper specs vs real world comparisons. They gave off quite the fanboy vibe.
Throwing in accusations of biasness in lab tests without understanding what they do? Insinuating a "paper spec" comparison instead of real-world tests without actually reading? I wonder who's giving off fanboy vibes here ...



The biggest irony? Here's a teardown paper spec comparison done by IHS-iSuppli, a market analyst firm, based on paper specs (without doing any tests): http://www.isuppli.com/Display-Materials-and-Systems/News/Pages/Galaxy-S-III%E2%80%99s-Display-Specs-Beat-iPhone5%E2%80%99s-But-Does-it-Matter-to-Users.aspx

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The iPhone 5’s display is just 1.5 millimeters thick, a 0.6-millimeter reduction from 2.1 millimeters for the iPhone 4S, according to measurements from the IHS iSuppli Teardown Analysis Service. Meanwhile, the color gamut of the iPhone 5 has risen to 72 percent of the NTSC standard, compared to 50 percent for the 4S.

Even so,  this falls short of the Samsung’s flagship Galaxy S III, which sports a display with a thickness of just 1.1 millimeters and a color gamut with full 100 percent NTSC, as shown in the tables below.

The S3 is the winner on paper. Too bad a greater color gamut doesn't necessarily  translate to better color accuracy in real life.



As for the real-world tests, bloody000 has already linked DisplayMate's shootout test results, measured with a color measurement and calibration device. CNet reports the same results via a color measurement test as well, so it’s not a one-off observation either.

And if you had really read the test results (or even just the summary), you'd have noticed that DisplayMate did viewing tests (i.e. by human eye), which concur with the measurements.

Reading further into the article, DisplayMate does point out the S3's strengths—black levels. It just doesn't have anywhere near the brightness level or color accuracy of the iPhone 5. This isn't a shitting parade on the S3. One can like the S3 and still report these findings.



Where's your biasness now?
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Re: iPhone 5 Is The Most Disappointing iPhone Ever?
« Reply #170 on: October 20, 2012, 09:31:02 AM »
it all boils down that neither the iPhone 5 or the galaxy S3 are perfect, none of the phones known to man are.
but in essence its all about preferences, its where the person who would purchase one of these be content or not, most likely not.

in another point of view, when budget is factored in, none of these matters =D

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Re: iPhone 5 Is The Most Disappointing iPhone Ever?
« Reply #171 on: October 20, 2012, 09:41:27 AM »
So I heard they're making an iPad mini.

Anyone else wondering where the point of convergence will be between iPads and iPhones?

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Re: iPhone 5 Is The Most Disappointing iPhone Ever?
« Reply #172 on: October 20, 2012, 06:22:12 PM »
So I heard they're making an iPad mini.

Anyone else wondering where the point of convergence will be between iPads and iPhones?

I dont like Tim Cook's (Apple CEO) "new vision for apple", I really think hes just like that guy from  PEPSI that Steve hired before driving apple to bankrupcy. . .


anyways Steve's vision of apple was something along hte lines of "I want apple to be the most advanced, the new big thing"
and Tim Cook's vision of apple is "We're already the new big thing, now lets try to get every one to have an iProduct"

and that lack of ambition for your product and too much ambition on your sales is going to drive apple to red again. . .

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Re: iPhone 5 Is The Most Disappointing iPhone Ever?
« Reply #173 on: October 20, 2012, 08:28:37 PM »
if they want sales they should drive the prices down, i mean, who wouldn't buy an iPhone5(even if its disappointing) when its priced at 100$?

or simply put, they should launch an R&D for research on how they could manufacture their future lines at a much cheaper price.

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Re: iPhone 5 Is The Most Disappointing iPhone Ever?
« Reply #174 on: October 20, 2012, 09:12:27 PM »
I think Apple could easily price their devices at about 100-200€ lower than now and still make a profit from it. Their products are still assembled in China and the interior is not as high-grade as many make it to be. The majority of the price you pay is for the name "Apple" and the design.

Also, the company has been getting shittier over the years. Ask any old Apple fan/user (from before the switch over to Intel) and he will tell you that.

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Re: iPhone 5 Is The Most Disappointing iPhone Ever?
« Reply #175 on: October 21, 2012, 02:26:10 AM »
if they want sales they should drive the prices down, i mean, who wouldn't buy an iPhone5(even if its disappointing) when its priced at 100$?

Part of Apple's appeal is its prestige. What kind of prestige can you hold when you price your stuff that low? Apple would lose a subset of its customers and loyalty if they did that.

Doing it only to gain sales would be a very bad move. The short-term sales increases they'd get would not at all justify the loss of longtime loyal customers.

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Re: iPhone 5 Is The Most Disappointing iPhone Ever?
« Reply #176 on: October 21, 2012, 08:24:11 AM »
its an example(its as if you don't know what "figure of speech" is o.o), if it'd go that low then sure, but even a 20% drop in their price it would've attracted as much customers as well.

the development of aiming for cheaper manufacturing costs still is a good thing for them manufacturer, they could either have higher profits by maintaining the price even with the lower manufacturing cost, or attract more customers at the same profits.
this is in conjunction to their usual improvements, thats why i said they should launch an R&D department just for the sole purpose of finding a way to make their future products more cheaper without affecting their profit.

edit: also in the retail department, i've witnessed shops who sold cheaper options(not necessarily the same model) have more than double the customers(hi CD-R king) in contrast to other shops with premiums on them.
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Re: iPhone 5 Is The Most Disappointing iPhone Ever?
« Reply #177 on: October 21, 2012, 04:21:06 PM »
Possibly. There are also a lot of people who buy nice-looking stuff just because they're expensive, and those kinds of people likely come back for more.

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Re: iPhone 5 Is The Most Disappointing iPhone Ever?
« Reply #178 on: October 21, 2012, 05:38:04 PM »
The iPhone ads are annoying as fuck. The one with the "your hand was made for this" thing. Omg.
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Re: iPhone 5 Is The Most Disappointing iPhone Ever?
« Reply #179 on: October 25, 2012, 01:02:56 PM »
The iPhone ads are annoying as fuck. The one with the "your hand was made for this" thing. Omg.
Shut the fuck up.
Lol, yup.

As opposed to the S3 ones where they basically openly bash Apple. Love those commercials.