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iPhone 5 Is The Most Disappointing iPhone Ever?

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GoGeTa006:

--- Quote from: mrdkreka on September 23, 2012, 03:21:12 PM ---
--- Quote from: Osmo on September 23, 2012, 02:14:56 PM ---Rather then create something totally new Apple, are just slowly perfecting the iPhone, which is brilliant tbh, so many people have ruined themselves by this, I mean who actually likes the windows 8 ?

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Brilliant, you are kidding right? If you don't innovate you are gonna get killed by the competition, and that is especially the case in the tech world, just look at what happen to apple last time, they stopped innovating. IPhone 5 is a great phone and it will sell a lot, but it doesn't bring anything to the table, heck even the iPhone 4s was more innovative with its Siri.
Normally apple will explain why they do like they do, but with the iphone 5 becoming widescreen we got zero explanation for why they did it. iOS 6 didn't bring anything to the table, it was all about getting Google services out of their phone, which was stupid since they didn't have good enough services to replace it.

The road apple is following will let them sell a lot of phones for a while, and years into the future, because they have one of the best packet deals(software and hardware) and a good ecosystem. However innovation is the key, if you want to stay in the game, and from the looks of it, Apple is just playing it to safe, which will harm them in the future.
The fact that they didn't put NFC in the new iPhone is such a big disappointment. It could really have pushed the technology forward, but they aren't willing to take any chances. I'm really hoping Google next nexus will do better, at the moment the only thing that have amazed me is the hardware of Lumia 920, to bad it has to suffer with windows phone 8  :-\


--- Quote from: Osmo on September 23, 2012, 03:15:08 PM ---Windows to phone port has been a complete fail, look at Nokia, they'll never come back.

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It is really a shame Nokia accepted the deal with windows, when they are the company who is making the best hardware in the mobile industry. They wouldn't even have trouble separating them self from the rest, if they had went with android, because of their amazing hardware. Well Nokia did speak of a plan B if windows should fail yet again, which it most likely will, because of how badly Microsoft have managed windows phone 8 so far.

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they wanted to expand the screen, but they realized that the width of the phone is OPTIMAL for most hands, because (at the end of the day) you should be able to use your phone with 1 hand and 1 thumb, which many of the larger phones are becoming harder to maneuver with just 1 thumb, so to "increase" the screen size, since all the other competitors brainwashed the market into believing bigger is better, they only increased it to a full widescreen resolution



and TBH I am still biased, the nokia Augmented reality seems pretty legit, but I just had such horrible experiences with previous windows phones. . (back in the days of PocketPC and even windows 6.5 still didnt convince me)
I owned a pocketPC and i tried the 6.5 that a friend had, and it just wasnt convincing at all, so I grew to hate windows mobile.

Android is pretty legit, I love it (i have it), but I only chose it over the iOS because I didnt have to sign my life away for 2 years. . .

AceHigh:
Personally that is what kept me from getting a smartphone: too fucking big.

mrdkreka:

--- Quote from: GoGeTa006 on September 23, 2012, 07:19:21 PM ---they wanted to expand the screen, but they realized that the width of the phone is OPTIMAL for most hands, because (at the end of the day) you should be able to use your phone with 1 hand and 1 thumb, which many of the larger phones are becoming harder to maneuver with just 1 thumb, so to "increase" the screen size, since all the other competitors brainwashed the market into believing bigger is better, they only increased it to a full widescreen resolution

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I'm reading your comment, and I can't figure out why they made it bigger, only why they didn't make it wider. Let me elaborate, everytime apple does something new, they use a lot of time explaining why they are doing it, and how much thought that went into it. However with making the screen longer that was no explanation at all, which makes sense, when you see they aren't using the extra space for anything. So why did they make the screen longer?

Oh and don't go down the road with optimal screen estate, by making the screen longer you wont be able to reach the top, when we are following the old optimal. I'm not in the mode for that kind of marketing bullshit, that fanboys use to justify the screen dimension.

GoGeTa006:

--- Quote from: mrdkreka on September 23, 2012, 07:36:05 PM ---
--- Quote from: GoGeTa006 on September 23, 2012, 07:19:21 PM ---they wanted to expand the screen, but they realized that the width of the phone is OPTIMAL for most hands, because (at the end of the day) you should be able to use your phone with 1 hand and 1 thumb, which many of the larger phones are becoming harder to maneuver with just 1 thumb, so to "increase" the screen size, since all the other competitors brainwashed the market into believing bigger is better, they only increased it to a full widescreen resolution

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I'm reading your comment, and I can't figure out why they made it bigger, only why they didn't make it wider. Let me elaborate, everytime apple does something new, they use a lot of time explaining why they are doing it, and how much thought that went into it. However with making the screen longer that was no explanation at all, which makes sense, when you see they aren't using the extra space for anything. So why did they make the screen longer?

Oh and don't go down the road with optimal screen estate, by making the screen longer you wont be able to reach the top, when we are following the old optimal. I'm not in the mode for that kind of marketing bullshit, that fanboys use to justify the screen dimension.

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well they didnt explain why make it bigger, and the thumb thing I mostly mean it texting-wise. . . (the keyboard isnt at the top of the screen) and your most used shortcuts are in the bottom dock.

but yeah, the bigger screen is just because (as I said) smartphone marketing has brainwashed people into thinking bigger is better (when its just an excuse for "we cant fit it all in a compact size")

Im pretty sure apple couldve packed it in the 3.5" screen, but everywhere in the internet everyone wanted a bigger screen. . .and so apple said "fuck it, we lost this one, lets give 'em the bigger screen"
or thats what I think

Osmo:

--- Quote from: AceHigh on September 23, 2012, 03:52:07 PM ---I don't see how it can be "too late" for a company such as Nokia. 3/4 of global phone userbase are "dumbphones" and Nokia makes money from that market. It's not like they will never sell phones again because of some mistakes.

Hell, Apple entered phone market really late, but they made profit, so your logic is still as stupid as ever.

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You've always been a Nokia fan boy.

There's already Nokia employees leaving the company to start their own line of phones, as well as Nokia staff loosing their jobs. Do you see a comeback? I don't see one happening any time soon, they've defo lost the smart phone game, or lost billions of dollars "at this moment in time" if you still foresee a comeback. Every dog has it's day.

Well the dumbphones were what made them money anyway in the first place, but even now dumbphones have lost their novelty people don't care about brand unless it's cheap, cheerful and reliable. Samsung is not only in the smartphones but they also sell quite a lot of dumbphones too, in other words they don't make as much as before through those dumb phones due to A. competition and B. smart phones have stolen a massive customer base.

And back to your point, Apple specializes in it's own operating system, so it was a natural in the smartphone market, unlike Nokia who don't have their own OS, which is the main reason why it's failing, so you can't compare Nokia with Apple like that within this context.



--- Quote from: mrdkreka on September 23, 2012, 03:54:01 PM ---
History is telling us otherwise, apple already failed once, because they played it safe. Apple are still able to move forward without Steve Jobs, they just need someone who can help them focus on the real stuff again.
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There's a saying never step in a great mans shoes.


--- Quote from: Belmakar on September 23, 2012, 03:56:23 PM ---You never actually touched a WP7 device, have you? IMO, the interface is way better than the iOS interface (especially the app list and the home screen), and even though it has it's quirks (most real problems where solved with the Mango and Tango updates though) and limitations (no FLAC support? are you fucking kidding me?), it's got a pretty decent overall user experience...
If Microsofts overall reputation was better, the old windows mobile wouldn't have been as horrible as it actually was and the ones doing the WP7 in general and Lumia in specific presentations would've had Steve Jobs' charisma, WP7 would have been a much greater deal.

And I must say, WP8 and especially the Lumia 920 got me pretty excited, despite the lack of choice in color (I'd like a black one, please) and the fact that it's always going to be worse than anticipated, and in most cases even more so with Microsoft products.

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....so yes they haven't been a complete fail, but comparing it to Nokias old standards, their smartphones have been complete fails.
And yes their interfaces are quite nice, I have touched one, but that's not relevant in the grand scheme of things.


--- Quote from: revo on September 23, 2012, 05:51:24 PM --- :o you can't be serious ?

Osmo you are full of shit
You don't know what you are talking about

I only heard positive reactions for WP7 and 8 and now some people on this forum got me stunned

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Rofl...

the world doesn't care about a few opinions on a anime forum, I'm not talking about my personal taste here, I'm talking about how Nokia is fairing in the global smartphone market.


--- Quote from: mrdkreka on September 23, 2012, 07:36:05 PM ---
I'm reading your comment, and I can't figure out why they made it bigger, only why they didn't make it wider. Let me elaborate, everytime apple does something new, they use a lot of time explaining why they are doing it, and how much thought that went into it. However with making the screen longer that was no explanation at all, which makes sense, when you see they aren't using the extra space for anything. So why did they make the screen longer?

Oh and don't go down the road with optimal screen estate, by making the screen longer you wont be able to reach the top, when we are following the old optimal. I'm not in the mode for that kind of marketing bullshit, that fanboys use to justify the screen dimension.

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I don't see why you don't see the benefits in a bigger screen? The iphone 4 looks tiny compared to all the other smartphones. And smartphones need more real estate. And the screen ratio is perfect I think...meh. If they didn't make the screen bigger I would have never thought about buying it.

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