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Ultrabook - Sony VAIO T Series [SVT13112FXS]
Saras:
--- Quote from: kitamesume on September 17, 2012, 08:36:55 PM ---how high is that standard of yours, last time i checked people still game on LGA775 core2duo with IGPs and AMD E350 notebooks and they can.
what? the i5u is slower than a celeron? http://ark.intel.com/compare/65707,53418
please tell me how, turbo at the same frequency, has more cache, has HT, has a faster IGP, has a faster memory controller which means higher memory bandwidth. how the heck is this slower.
we're talking about gaming on an ultrabook for christ sake, if you can link a trinity ultrabook that can game then sure you can recommend that.
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Turbo boost isn't universal between the amount of cores used, 2.6ghz is the rating for when only a single core is boosted. It's 2.3ghz for when two cores are boosted simultaneously. My i7m is rated for "3.3ghz", however in the real world it caps out at 3.1 as well. And HT is nice for someone who is coding or the like, but while we're discussing gaming, it makes absolutely no difference.
HP Sleekbook 6z come with either a A6-4455m or a A10-4655m.
That Vaio comes with a hybrid HDD, while not as good as true SSD, it shouldn't be too bad to use.
Oh, and since you're so adamant at HD4000's being good enough nowadays. There you go, GW2, a popular new game. Here's a very quick test I just did, near a dull area, no one around me, while standing still i get 23fps. (click to show/hide)Sorry mate, I consider that unplayable.
p.s. I'm using a far faster CPU than the one in op's listings(i7-3610qm)
Also, do remember, that all of the consoles will basically switch out to a new generation come a year or two. It will make games a lot more graphically intensive than they are now.
Freedom Kira:
--- Quote from: Tatsujin on September 17, 2012, 09:45:59 PM ---That's the only issue with the laptop ... would it produce a lot of heat?
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Ultrabooks tend to have Intel's U processors, which indicate ultra-low voltage. This correlates with low TDP, meaning low heat. I believe all of the Ivy Bridge U processors have a max of 17W TDP. Yours is no exception.
--- Quote from: Tatsujin on September 17, 2012, 09:45:59 PM ---I'll also be waiting on upgrading the RAM. I doubt I'd be doing heavy multi-tasking on the laptop. I'm thinking of upgrading the hard drives instead. I know the 500 GB one is about 5400 or 5200 RPM. I don't know how fast the SSD is and if the connection inside the laptop a SATA II or SATA III connection.
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Given the price tag, I'd bet it's a SATA II connection. A good SATA II SSD would still give you a world of a difference over your typical HDD though. If your system with the hybrid drive is already noticeably faster than a similar desktop with a 7200RPM HDD, I wouldn't bother going up to full SSD. I'd expect the performance boost from hybrid to SSD to be similar to the performance boost from 7200RPM HDD to hybrid (don't quote me on that). To me, the extra premium isn't worth it.
Looking at what you've got, though, I think that's more of an "ultrabook-like" than an actual ultrabook. Kinda like halfway between ultrabook and laptop. It looks a little too thick to be an ultrabook and at the same time thinner than a laptop.
kitamesume:
--- Quote from: Saras on September 18, 2012, 05:43:13 AM ---
--- Quote from: kitamesume on September 17, 2012, 08:36:55 PM ---how high is that standard of yours, last time i checked people still game on LGA775 core2duo with IGPs and AMD E350 notebooks and they can.
what? the i5u is slower than a celeron? http://ark.intel.com/compare/65707,53418
please tell me how, turbo at the same frequency, has more cache, has HT, has a faster IGP, has a faster memory controller which means higher memory bandwidth. how the heck is this slower.
we're talking about gaming on an ultrabook for christ sake, if you can link a trinity ultrabook that can game then sure you can recommend that.
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Turbo boost isn't universal between the amount of cores used, 2.6ghz is the rating for when only a single core is boosted. It's 2.3ghz for when two cores are boosted simultaneously. My i7m is rated for "3.3ghz", however in the real world it caps out at 3.1 as well. And HT is nice for someone who is coding or the like, but while we're discussing gaming, it makes absolutely no difference.
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turbo core scales depending on load, when load is single threaded turbo will fire up 2.6ghz on one core while the others remain idle, on the other hand while in multi threaded, even if the max turbo is 2.3ghz it can process four threads at once in contrast to two on celeron, with other things to conciser like a higher memory bandwidth and larger cache it makes it superior to a celeron in terms of performance. on a side note turbo on IVYB is controlled by the motherboard, although its a desktop motherboard it also applies to laptop's, a modded bios will be able to utilize a flat turbo.
the performance of HD4000 being awful contributes to the underclocked IGP, clock it back to 650mhz and you'd see difference in numbers. to cancel the elevated TDP undervolt the CPU, if you've done these tweaks then i have no idea how your setup could perform so badly. scratch that, unless its being underclocked unknowingly it should be naturally clocked at 650mhz.
PS: since you're running on higher than requirements it means to say it should be playable.
--- Quote ---GW2 - System requirements
Windows XP Service Pack 2 or better
Intel Core 2 Duo 2.0 GHz, Core i3, AMD Athlon 64 X2 or better
NVIDIA GeForce 7800, ATI Radeon X1800, Intel HD 3000 or better (256MB of video RAM and shader model 3.0 or better)
25 GB available HDD space
Broadband Internet connection
Keyboard and mouse[2]
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on a serious note, if one wants to really game on an ultrabook, get a haswell with a GT3.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6277/haswell-up-to-128mb-onpackage-cache-ulv-gpu-performance-estimates
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6266/idf-2012-haswell-gt3-running-skyrim
metro.:
Who really wants to game on a laptop?
I mean, really?
kitamesume:
Lan party ftw? its like asking "why do people still buy PSP when theres consoles with huge TVs as monitors".
edit: if you're commuting its not viable to bring in a 20KG (PC+Monitor) ._.
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