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Tiffanys:
I don't care who ripped who off, I'm just attributing a name for a specific design. And to be honest, that post on page 2 was the first time I ever even used the term, so it's not exactly like I'm fervently attached to it.
Really, call it whatever you want. I couldn't care less. But you've drawn your own thread so far off topic now in your own little temper tantrum that you completely missed the entire point of why I even mentioned it in the first place. Allow me to annotate it for you:
--- Quote ---I don't like the new touchscreen only(...) model of phone(...) I need a physical qwerty keyboard on my phone for that tactile feel(...)
I have long nails. I type so slowly and inaccurately with my fingertips that it's not even worth the time that it takes to type. And I'm not about to get rid of my beloved french mani just so I can type on a damn phone.
I won't use any device that requires I type using a touchscreen. Even if they could detect nail input, I prefer being able to feel something physically go down.
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Get it yet?
As for manga, I'd call them bishōnen. They're the same genre. Though the allusion to phone models would be incorrect. In the phone reference, they're similar in appearance, but different under the hood. With anime genre, they're similar under the hood due to common plot elements that group them into that genre, but their appearance is fairly different. It's actually a completely polar relation. Not to mention that the bishōnen genre was established prior to the creation of said mentioned series while the specific iPhone style cellphone wasn't.
I don't know if the iPhone was the very first of its kind, but it was the one that popularized it. It's for that very same reason that most MMO's are called "WoW clones" if they have similar elements although WoW was certainly not the first to employ those elements.
Ah but on clicking Preview it seems that mrdkreka has pointed out what "the first" one was with that design. Unimportant, really, but there you go. But, now it looks like I'll need to reply to them...
--- Quote from: mrdkreka on January 26, 2013, 09:40:58 PM ---LG prada was out before the iphone with that design, heck having camera on the front is something the iphone got a lot later than the competition. The iphone doesn't even have a logo on the front as your picture, and your picture doesn't even look like an iphone, especially not the first generation. As someone who have been studding production development, reading your comment about every smartphone being a iphone clone makes me want to shoot myself :(
Just admit than you are wrong about calling 95% of smartphone for iClone, however you are right in it being hard to use captive screen with long nails, also one of the reason why the galaxy note sold so well(stylus).
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While that's all well and good, unfortunately I can't admit that I'm wrong about something that I never actually said to begin with. To quote every instance of any similarity from my first post in this thread onwards:
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--- Quote ---I don't like the new touchscreen only bullshit all these new iClones have (I'm calling them that cause they're all clones of that same garbage model of phone).
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--- Quote ---So any future phone that is touchscreen only is relegated to being an iClone?
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If it's ~90%+ similar to this, then yes:
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--- Quote ---You're the one being stupid, prescribing one thing to everything. "Oh, well if you call touchscreen only smartphones that look 95% similar to an iPhone an iClone then your face is hitler hur dur dur" (...)
I call them iClones (which honestly was a whimsical joke to begin with, like people calling Microsoft Micro$oft or Microsuck) because iPhone was the first one that came out with that stupid design, after which everyone copied them. They're essentially the same exact phone version in version out with slightly different firmware and hardware. They all feature the same 90%+ similar design I showed above and are totally useless to anyone with long nails.
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--- Quote ---If you look at that screenshot earlier, even if you compare it to a full qwerty one like this one:
(...)
The base model of it is 90% similar. The speaker/logo and random button areas are exactly in the same spot, screen and size almost exactly the same.
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--- Quote ---It's a specific type of cellphone design, which conforms to this:
If it falls within that category, you can call it whatever the hell you want, but it doesn't negate that.
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And so essentially, I can't admit that I'm wrong about something I was misquoted as having said to begin with.
kitamesume:
--- Quote from: Tiffanys on January 26, 2013, 10:19:00 PM ---As for manga, I'd call them bishōnen. They're the same genre. Though the allusion to phone models would be incorrect. In the phone reference, they're similar in appearance, but different under the hood. With anime genre, they're similar under the hood due to common plot elements that group them into that genre, but their appearance is fairly different. It's actually a completely polar relation. Not to mention that the bishōnen genre was established prior to the creation of said mentioned series while the specific iPhone style cellphone wasn't.
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no since i'm simply asking if you justify such saying "this is naruto/bleach/onepeice ripoff piece of shit" people gets to say whenever theres a new manga thats identical to them, if no then you're really something.
as for mangas themselves having similarities there are, plot line being the same but the actual progress differs(the old me-hero-save-world), same settings/theme (dat ninja theme), same art (identical to some degree at least) and so on.
if you relate it to your iclone scenario, settings/theme = concept | plot line & progress = content | art = appearance.
now:
concept = its a smartphone
content = its a dualcore with blablabla
appearance = ohh it looks like an iphone ripoff
Tiffanys:
You're really grasping now, eh?
Why don't you just drop it and get back on topic? This is becoming bothersome. The only one that even cares about such an insignificant semantical distinction is you.
I already explained my meaning. I can't even justify this retarded conversation to begin with. I have no intention of continuing on this ridiculous tangent.
Talk about anal retentive, man. Sheesh.
GoGeTa006:
I didnt read all of the previous posts but I sensed Tiff getting angry over long nails,
I have the solution, tiff. its called super sensitive touch screens, I believe the new generations have it now (nokia 920 and I believe Galaxy S4 will have it)
anyways, this things are supposed to be nail friendly and glove friendly and things-that-arent-usually-detected friendly, but anyways, theres also the LG Mach as I said earlier
It has android 4.0 (jellyrancher? or something)
anyways. . .
I am still mad about big smartphones >:(
I want a fucking phone not a gaming rig in my pocket. . . Manufacturers are forgetting:
there are 3 SEPARATE groups:
- Cellphone/Smartphone market
- Tablet market
- Computer market
. . . trying to condense a full tablet into a phone is not useful. . .and an octa core? who needs that much computing power? I mean I dont need 1080p in a fucking 4.5" display. . .
as stated by my good ol' friends at apple:
after 280?(ish) ppi the human eye cannot detect a pixel at 12", which is why the retina display has that density. . .which is why the iphone 5 still has that retina display instead of the more advanced one that samsung/competitors released. . .
I mean . . .whats next? 4k resolution 7" phones that dont fit in anyone's pocket anymore?
Tiffanys:
--- Quote from: GoGeTa006 on January 27, 2013, 03:43:24 AM ---I didnt read all of the previous posts but I sensed Tiff getting angry over long nails,
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Nah, that's not it at all. The tl;dr is that kitamesume was getting all mad over me grouping phones with an iPhone-like design into a category and jokingly calling them iClones.
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