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Offline Bozobub

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Re: Tips to get a better upload ratio
« Reply #20 on: November 16, 2012, 01:44:21 AM »
Well, many of the better clients DO let you set per-torrent bandwidth caps.  So, while you can't set it per connection, there's still some granularity to your control.  But yes, I don't know of any client that lets you control individual connections, beyond banning specific peers (if you notice a lot of bad data from them, for example).

Offline TheHell

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Re: Tips to get a better upload ratio
« Reply #21 on: November 19, 2012, 07:20:34 AM »
well I didn't ask how to put a cap on bandwidth usage of torrent. just wanted to know if there is any data about how torrent clients handle download and upload tasks and some info about connection settings inside of torrent. ::)

BTW. I was thinking that I can take my completed torrents to few different places and put them on seeding for some limited time. it can change my ratio a bit. the question is: is such thing useful for BBT users?

Offline Al_Sleeper

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Re: Tips to get a better upload ratio
« Reply #22 on: November 19, 2012, 08:32:46 AM »
Is such thing useful for BBT users?
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Offline buchno

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Re: Tips to get a better upload ratio
« Reply #23 on: November 19, 2012, 08:33:55 AM »
BTW. I was thinking that I can take my completed torrents to few different places and put them on seeding for some limited time. it can change my ratio a bit. the question is: is such thing useful for BBT users?
Different places? You're only allowed to seed a torrent from one location at a time.

I may have misunderstood, and you meant places on your hard drive.
...or places, like at different trackers.

...I don't know who I'm talking to.
« Last Edit: November 19, 2012, 05:49:09 PM by buchno »

Offline Oro o_o

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Re: Tips to get a better upload ratio
« Reply #24 on: November 19, 2012, 09:49:56 AM »
I am quite happy using the public trackers for leeching.
My current list of seeded torrents, however barely managed to upload 200MB in the last 12 hours.
(click to show/hide)

You can see why the expiration of public trackers would result in a ridiculously small amount of seeded data while they haven't expired. Most of the time my torrents aren't picked up for seeding since  most of the torrents have plenty of seeders (probably having a better upload rate too). Then the torrent itself expires and thus I have to keep a tab on every torrent that is on a public tracker.  This was quite depressing since at the end of october about 20 or so torrents with the public tracker expired therefore I finally decided to register as a user to continue seeding. After all one good turn deserves another.
« Last Edit: November 19, 2012, 04:18:17 PM by Oro o_o »
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Re: Tips to get a better upload ratio
« Reply #25 on: November 19, 2012, 03:18:39 PM »
Oro o_o, that is promoting cheating. Why even be a member if you're going to cheat....it baffles me so much, just stay on the public tracker. I wish they would just ban people who openly flaunt doing this shit and try promote it to others.

Offline buchno

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Re: Tips to get a better upload ratio
« Reply #26 on: November 19, 2012, 03:41:50 PM »
Oro o_o, that is promoting cheating. Why even be a member if you're going to cheat....it baffles me so much, just stay on the public tracker. I wish they woul.. d just ban people who openly flaunt doing this shit and try promote it to others.
...or at least not allow posts detailing how to exploit the system...

Offline Oro o_o

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Re: Tips to get a better upload ratio
« Reply #27 on: November 19, 2012, 04:17:16 PM »
Like I said, I am only seeding. What's the problem with that ?
If this is against the rules then ill stop doing it altogether.

Anyhow removed the earlier post before it causes more troubles.
Sorry everyone.
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Offline buchno

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Re: Tips to get a better upload ratio
« Reply #28 on: November 19, 2012, 04:34:40 PM »
Like I said, I am only seeding. What's the problem with that ?
The ratio exists for a reason. If everyone were to exploit the system like you do, it would be completely useless, and we'd either have to remove it or make this a private tracker before everyone start leeching publicly and don't care to seed even near the amount required not to get warned like you do.

Offline Oro o_o

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Re: Tips to get a better upload ratio
« Reply #29 on: November 19, 2012, 04:41:59 PM »
The ratio exists for a reason. If everyone were to exploit the system like you do, it would be completely useless, and we'd either have to remove it or make this a private tracker before everyone start leeching publicly and don't care to seed even near the amount required not to get warned like you do.

:\ well yes that is a point. But what exactly is the difference between the public and private tracker then ? Honestly my bandwidth is so low (total max 125KB/s) that I wont even notice if there's any boost to the leeching speed by being on the private tracker. I've shifted to the private tracker only because they do not expire so I can continue to seed without monitoring each and every of my torrents (presently seeding 28 torrents for bakabt, 1 active)

I've removed the part from my earlier post that could have resulted in the exploitation of the system.
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Offline buchno

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Re: Tips to get a better upload ratio
« Reply #30 on: November 19, 2012, 05:02:46 PM »
But what exactly is the difference between the public and private tracker then ?
The difference between a public and a private tracker is that everyone needs an account to access the private tracker, and you often need to be invited by an existing member.

Honestly my bandwidth is so low (total max 125KB/s) that I wont even notice if there's any boost to the leeching speed by being on the private tracker.
There is no difference in the speed between a public and private torrent on BBT.

I've removed the part from my earlier post that could have resulted in the exploitation of the system.
Thank you.

Edit: I wrote these in private messages, but I feel they're important enough for people to read and learn something.
There is no rule here just like there is nothing which forces you to pay for WinRAR instead of using the trial version forever. If everyone stopped paying for the software, the person developing it would not be able to continue working on it and we'd be stuck with a deprecated version. The developer still keeps the trial version available for our use, because he believes everyone won't exploit his good intentions.

You may not have any interest in your statistics, but you probably do care about still being able to download. Had you downloaded everything you downloaded by exploiting BBT:s system rightfully, you'd have been warned long ago (your ratio would 0.004). This is not because we have anything against you, but because we want BBT to remain a high quality tracker.

There may not be any specific rule against this at the moment, but if more people choose to exploit it, BBT may need one for its own survival's sake.
That is why the requirement of the ratio is not 1.0, but along the lines of 0.1. If people can't adhere to that limit either, they've solved it by getting a seedbox, buying a better connection or simply not to download as much. I understand your concern, but BBT is not a charity and never will be.

You have never been forced by anyone to exploit BBT:s good will. That was a choice made by you.

If you by any reason will not improve your connection, and still want to download the same amount you do today, the easiest and best solution for everyone would be for you not to use your tracker account at all, and switch back to downloading publicly. BakaBT is a public tracker after all.

/buchno
« Last Edit: November 19, 2012, 05:50:41 PM by buchno »

Offline Al_Sleeper

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Re: Tips to get a better upload ratio
« Reply #31 on: November 19, 2012, 06:05:47 PM »
I've shifted to the private tracker only because they do not expire so I can continue to seed without monitoring each and every of my torrents (presently seeding 28 torrents for bakabt, 1 active)
Do you know that you can update tracker address in all of them simultaneously?

Offline Oro o_o

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Re: Tips to get a better upload ratio
« Reply #32 on: November 19, 2012, 06:16:10 PM »
Do you know that you can update tracker address in all of them simultaneously?
How O.O ? The only thing I noticed about the public URL that it has the current month mentioned as part of the url. That's all.
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Offline Al_Sleeper

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Re: Tips to get a better upload ratio
« Reply #33 on: November 19, 2012, 06:37:55 PM »
1. Download 1 (public) torrent file.
2. Copy (public) tracker address from it.
3. Select all torrents you want to update, right click on them, and select "Properties".
4. Paste the new (public) tracker address over the old one.
5. Click "OK".

Offline TheHell

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Re: Tips to get a better upload ratio
« Reply #34 on: November 19, 2012, 07:55:09 PM »
 :o ok ok l knew that BBT don't really needs more seeding. just don't start a fight  :police:

Offline Al_Sleeper

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Re: Tips to get a better upload ratio
« Reply #35 on: November 19, 2012, 08:29:48 PM »
No, I meant that you can easily seed public torrents for several months.

Offline buchno

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Re: Tips to get a better upload ratio
« Reply #36 on: November 20, 2012, 08:11:50 PM »
No, I meant that you can easily seed public torrents for several months.
I think TheHell referred to my wall of text...