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megido-rev.M:
Aside from disaster measures and capacity/performance, what qualifies a file system as better than another?

kitamesume:
^none really, but there are some file systems that promotes faster read/writes by having the blocks arranged in advantageous positions, irrelevant as a storage since you only throw the files in and store it for who knows how long you'd access it again.


--- Quote from: buchno on November 04, 2012, 05:30:32 PM ---I've read through what you've written several times, and I'm still not sure what you're trying to convey...


--- Quote from: kitamesume on November 04, 2012, 12:37:13 PM ---and no, power outage isn't the system's fault, its a "disaster" outside of normal operations.

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Of course it's not the system's fault, however, the risk for data corruption because of that "disaster" depends on which file system you use.


--- Quote from: kitamesume on November 04, 2012, 12:37:13 PM ---so whats the verdict? every file system should be adequate enough for other file system to matter, you'll only need to consider a superior one once you're talking over 3terrabytes of storage, where redundancy becomes too expensive to implement.

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3TB? FAT32 is out of the question for anyone who wants to store files over 4GB (which often occurs a long time before 3TB of total storage) or wants file permissions. FAT32 and Ext2 are not journaling file systems, which increases the risk for data corruption significantly (although the performance is better, which makes them a good choice for small USB flash drives). There are multitudes of differences in useful features between today's file systems, which you can read about here or here.

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how about you stop reading my posts in fragments?

--- Quote from: kitamesume on November 03, 2012, 11:36:24 PM ---but last time i checked, except the old fat file system though, have good enough managing for the other things to matter.

what matters on file storage is sheer capacity on top of hardware longevity, nothing else would matter really.
power outage during write times is another problem and not exactly a problem with a file storage, and you should have an UPS already imho.

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abrupt write because of a power failure doesn't get solved by a file system, at best it would only flag the fragmented file as an incorrect file and either auto-delete it or mark it as junk after power is resumed, you'll still need to redo the write process. if theres any file system that magically have the full file written even if the write process is abrupted then i'll change my views into that.
there is no file system that can save you from this catastrophe thoroughly, only the proper equipment can, e.g. whats the best counter measure for power failures :rolleyes:

on the other hand, improper writes due to bugs isn't the file system's fault either, the write program itself is writing the file wrong and should be fixed.

really, anything outside of normal operations shouldn't be applied to the normal terms of storage, if you want to have the most perfect storage thats disaster-proof and fool-proof then sure go ahead and pick your best stuffs. but first, you'll need to invest on the proper machinery before you should worry about the filesystem.
or simply put, once you've written the file onto the storage medium, and confirmed that it doesn't have any errors, would any other file system matter? i don't think so.

edit: lets relate it in accountancy, this is what im trying to convey.
your storage medium is paper, yes paper, and redundancy is creating multiples of copy. the accountant itself is the write program, while the printer is the reliability of power, and the file system is the partition and fonts of the paper also the reader's ability to tolerate spelling errors.
sure if the spelling is bad the fonts and the reader's ability to tolerate could make it at least readable right? how about the amounts thats in numbers? where 1 turned into 7... no, just replace the accountant for failing in that department.
oh the printer ran out of ink in the middle of writing, equivalent to a power failure, now the document is useless. well if you had continuous ink it wouldn't matter, no its not the paper's or the font's fault nor does the reader have anything to do with it.

now looking solely on the filesystem point of view, a proper font can promote speed reading, which is advantageous for the reader, while proper partitions could make the document clean and tidy. the reader's skills to correct mis-spellings and tolerate other factors does promote ease of understanding, a skilled reader could also promote degradation detections on older documents.
most of these features are present on most commonly used filesystems although at a minimum on some of the filesystems but it makes the issues irrelevant if you had the proper equipments to begin with, a proper accountant that rarely makes spelling mistakes, a reliable printer so document writes wouldn't be wasted, and proper maintenance on these equipment.

ari_elle:

--- Quote from: fubuu11 on November 02, 2012, 02:57:36 AM ---so i want to know the best fs out there that is best for anime or general archiving...
i am not really knowledgeable at fs's so explain them in simplies form possible xD

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Well i can just mention what people here already said:
If you are a windows user you don't have much choice as far as i know.

For GNU/Linux users: ext4 is in my opinion the best way to go.

Zfs support in Linux is not mature yet, at least this is my knowledge about it.

I am a little bit stunned that xfs wasn't mentioned:
Xfs filesystem is gaining weight in the Linuxsphere, some distributions even already have made it their default for the /home partition, as it seems to be especially great handling large files (as far as i know even NASA is using xfs for part of their supercomputer systems).


Yet if you are lacking great knowledge in this area to begin with, stick with the default filesystems, as you can't do so much wrong, i'd recommend ext4 (linux), ntfs (for windows since i think you don't have any choice to begin with), i don't know about Mac filesystems....

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