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Offline Tolle

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New connection - want to help seeding heavily, but unable
« on: November 04, 2012, 05:12:09 PM »
I've tried to look around the forum and wiki, and I can't seem to find a solution to my problem - and maybe there isn't one.
I want to use this!!!
I've recently acquired a connection which is actually worth using for seeding (my old one had ~1mb/s down | ~90kb/s up - it was hard keeping a +0.5 ratio). Wanting to share the anime/manga we've all come to love, I thought I could just leave the torrents alone and they would seed as much as possible, but unfortunately, it seems I can't get any of my torrents to seed very much, if at all.
Maybe we've got so many dedicated seeders, that all Baka-Torrents are as healthy as can be, or maybe I'm doing something wrong.

I'm not really sure what my preferences should be, but this is how they are set now:
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Port: Open
UPnP, NET-PMP and firewall exception: all enabled.
Bandwidth allocation is set to unlimited.

Applying rate limit to uTP connection.
Global maximum number of connections: 1000
Maximum number of connected peers per torrent: 200
Number of upload slots per torrent: 20
DHT, Local Peer Discovery, uTP, UDP tracker support, Peer Exchange: all enabled.
Protocol Encryption enabled on Outgoing.

No transfer cap.

Maximum of 25 active torrents.
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Sorry, I know it's a lot of info, but I thought I might as well add it, in case any of you would ask.

I tried downloading different torrents with fair amount of leechers (30+), but I'm never allowed to seed much.
Does anybody know what I can do to seed more?

Thanks for your time and help,
Tolle

Offline Al_Sleeper

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Re: New connection - want to help seeding heavily, but unable
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2012, 05:34:05 PM »
Which torrent client are you using? The latest versions of uTorrent tend to have rather poor seeding performance.

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Re: New connection - want to help seeding heavily, but unable
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2012, 05:36:48 PM »
May be off topic, but UPnP is a security risk.

Offline Tolle

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Re: New connection - want to help seeding heavily, but unable
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2012, 06:05:27 PM »
Which torrent client are you using? The latest versions of uTorrent tend to have rather poor seeding performance.

I'm using uTorrent version 3.2.1 build 28086.
But it seems like I can upload fair enough on other torrents, but for some reason, all the Baka torrents aren't seeding very much :/

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Re: New connection - want to help seeding heavily, but unable
« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2012, 06:10:24 PM »
I highly doubt the client being used is the problem, with a connection like that...

"Danish Network For Research" - is that some kind of academic network? Could it be that P2P traffic is heavily restricted or blocked, hence the poor performance?

BakaBT's torrents are very well seeded, so if you only have a few running, you won't be seeding much at all. But if you have 25 seeding at once, you should be able to get good speeds at least some of the time, so I guess that's probably not the problem.

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Re: New connection - want to help seeding heavily, but unable
« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2012, 06:21:46 PM »
Maximum of 25 active torrents.
25 is too little for your internet connection, it's better to double or even triple the value.
My number of active torrents on average 35-50, and it's considering that my internet speed is almost five times less than yours.
« Last Edit: November 04, 2012, 06:28:03 PM by Van. »

Offline Tolle

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Re: New connection - want to help seeding heavily, but unable
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2012, 06:57:03 PM »
"Danish Network For Research" - is that some kind of academic network? Could it be that P2P traffic is heavily restricted or blocked, hence the poor performance?

Actually, I think it's quite the opposite. The network is my universities, but living nearby, I get the same connection. The science studies use the network for research and testing, so the network should be configured to be open/available in all its forms.

However, at the moment I have "only" 8 torrents from BakaBT running - do you guys think increasing the amount of active torrents will help?

Offline Al_Sleeper

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Re: New connection - want to help seeding heavily, but unable
« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2012, 07:00:06 PM »
Yes.

Offline Tolle

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Re: New connection - want to help seeding heavily, but unable
« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2012, 07:02:28 PM »
Yes.
Was that the obvious answer to anyone but me? :/

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Re: New connection - want to help seeding heavily, but unable
« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2012, 07:10:07 PM »
"Danish Network For Research" - is that some kind of academic network? Could it be that P2P traffic is heavily restricted or blocked, hence the poor performance?

Actually, I think it's quite the opposite. The network is my universities, but living nearby, I get the same connection. The science studies use the network for research and testing, so the network should be configured to be open/available in all its forms.

However, at the moment I have "only" 8 torrents from BakaBT running - do you guys think increasing the amount of active torrents will help?

That doesn't mean much. My university's network was the same, but it was heavily restricted - if you wanted to use a blocked port or protocol you had to submit a special application to get permission, and explaining why you needed it, before you were able to.

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Re: New connection - want to help seeding heavily, but unable
« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2012, 07:13:11 PM »
That doesn't mean much. My university's network was the same, but it was heavily restricted - if you wanted to use a blocked port or protocol you had to submit a special application to get permission, and explaining why you needed it, before you were able to.
Oh :/ Well, I'm not sure about restrictions. I'm sharing the same fiber, but not actual network as the university. If I need to contact someone in case of problems, I would have to call my land-owner, not the university.

Can there be restrictions when the ports are open?

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Re: New connection - want to help seeding heavily, but unable
« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2012, 07:15:51 PM »
Yes.
Was that the obvious answer to anyone but me? :/
If your goal is to seed a lot to improve your ratio or just being generally useful, yes  ;D  The reason is that BakaBT is generally an overseeded site, so to catch any downloaders for older torrents you need to be present and waiting.

If your goal is the same as mine, to get a decent ratio for the torrents I DL and support a few weak ones for a bit longer, then the answer is different. Then having just a few running is quite OK. In fact it is  good thing for the weaker seeds if the fiber monsters don't provide all upload; in that way they get a chance to improve their ratios as well.


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Re: New connection - want to help seeding heavily, but unable
« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2012, 07:20:31 PM »
"overseeded" I wanted to say that first ::)
check here http://forums.bakabt.me/index.php?topic=36440.0 and join the conversation

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Re: New connection - want to help seeding heavily, but unable
« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2012, 07:26:06 PM »
Holy fuck look at that connection.  :o
You can seed at least 100 torrents together on BakaBT with that thing.
Steps to get yourself a decent upload speed here
Download 20-30 freeleeches so as to not destroy your ratio and get something to seed. 
When your ratio is alright/good enough to download normal non-freeleech stuff grab a few and seed them as well.
Don't expect yourself to seed with only 10 torrents. And get rid of that 25 torrents limit.
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Re: New connection - want to help seeding heavily, but unable
« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2012, 07:26:50 PM »
If your goal is to seed a lot to improve your ratio or just being generally useful, yes  ;D  The reason is that BakaBT is generally an overseeded site, so to catch any downloaders for older torrents you need to be present and waiting.
I guess that's the case, then. I've always thought that it was possible to seed more, since my old 90kb/s were in constant use when seeding torrents and now, it's almost the same - except for the fact that I could be doing more.

I'll try adding a few of my older torrents from BakaBT to see if I get lucky to find any leechers on those. I guess I'll have to go with the patience approach. I'll seed as many torrents as possible for the next couple of days - that way, I'll be able to rule out the chance, that my preferences are bad, if I do happen to start uploading a lot for a shorter duration.

Thanks for the response - and feel free to PM me if you happen to have a suggestion on how to improve my chances of seeding.
TYVM,
Tolle

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Re: New connection - want to help seeding heavily, but unable
« Reply #15 on: November 04, 2012, 07:27:55 PM »
Holy fuck look at that connection.  :o
You can seed at least 100 torrents together on BakaBT with that thing.
Steps to get yourself a decent upload speed here
Download 20-30 freeleeches so as to not destroy your ratio and get something to seed. 
When your ratio is alright/good enough to download normal non-freeleech stuff grab a few and seed them as well.
Don't expect yourself to seed with only 10 torrents. And get rid of that 25 torrents limit.

Good idea on the freeleech torrents - and torrent limit removed. Thanks :)


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Re: New connection - want to help seeding heavily, but unable
« Reply #17 on: November 04, 2012, 09:06:44 PM »
That doesn't mean much. My university's network was the same, but it was heavily restricted - if you wanted to use a blocked port or protocol you had to submit a special application to get permission, and explaining why you needed it, before you were able to.
Oh :/ Well, I'm not sure about restrictions. I'm sharing the same fiber, but not actual network as the university. If I need to contact someone in case of problems, I would have to call my land-owner, not the university.

Can there be restrictions when the ports are open?

Ah, I thought your problem was that you were barely seeding at all, not seeding at 90KB/s. If you can seed that much, then there clearly aren't any restrictions at all. Hell, that's faster than I can seed on my fibre connection :P

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Re: New connection - want to help seeding heavily, but unable
« Reply #18 on: November 04, 2012, 09:10:30 PM »
Ah, I thought your problem was that you were barely seeding at all, not seeding at 90KB/s. If you can seed that much, then there clearly aren't any restrictions at all. Hell, that's faster than I can seed on my fibre connection :P
But that's the thing! How can you maintain a 1:2 ratio with a connection like that? Theoretically, I could upload tons of gigabyte a day, but I'm not :(

Hopefully, some of these freeleech torrents will let me seed :)

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Re: New connection - want to help seeding heavily, but unable
« Reply #19 on: November 04, 2012, 09:20:22 PM »
But that's the thing! How can you maintain a 1:2 ratio with a connection like that? Theoretically, I could upload tons of gigabyte a day, but I'm not :(

Hopefully, some of these freeleech torrents will let me seed :)

I don't download a huge amount to begin with, and when I do it's often freeleech (since I mainly get movies from BBT, and they warrant 1080p unlike most TV series), so maintaining it isn't too tough. I seed most of the time my PC's on, too (which is a lot). It was a bit tough in the beginning, admittedly, but I'd been a non-member for a while and already downloaded 2-3 series before I registered, so I was able to start seeding right from the start, pretty much. Even so, 90KB/s is a good upload speed - it's not hard to seed a reasonable amount if you try (and are reasonable with the amount you download). There are many people here with far worse connections.