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iOS vs android
Freedom Kira:
--- Quote from: lapa321 on November 17, 2012, 02:59:44 AM ---That mostly applies in North America.
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This I can accept, along with your discussion.
--- Quote from: mgz on November 16, 2012, 09:26:41 PM ---that is only true with phones that dont have simcards
The company is required to give you unlock codes if you ask for it to use your phone elsewhere
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That's not entirely true. I bought a phone (yes, SIM) from Rogers without a plan a few years ago, and it was locked. I was unable to get it unlocked.
And even if you can get the unlock code, it's still got all kinds of whatever bloatware on it that the carrier installed, so it's not truly "unlocked." That's where the difference between "unlocked" and "never locked" comes from.
metro.:
Didn't realize you were Canadian Freedom...
Still, point stands that Canada, and the States, for some reason has this thing with locking phones. I know now that Telus is unlocking them for free, and I think I read somewhere everyone else is going to be doing it now too. Thankfully.
mgz:
--- Quote from: Freedom Kira on November 17, 2012, 08:28:22 AM ---
--- Quote from: lapa321 on November 17, 2012, 02:59:44 AM ---That mostly applies in North America.
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This I can accept, along with your discussion.
--- Quote from: mgz on November 16, 2012, 09:26:41 PM ---that is only true with phones that dont have simcards
The company is required to give you unlock codes if you ask for it to use your phone elsewhere
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That's not entirely true. I bought a phone (yes, SIM) from Rogers without a plan a few years ago, and it was locked. I was unable to get it unlocked.
And even if you can get the unlock code, it's still got all kinds of whatever bloatware on it that the carrier installed, so it's not truly "unlocked." That's where the difference between "unlocked" and "never locked" comes from.
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and the reason they start off locked adn with their garbage is the same reason you pay 199 for a 600$ phone and why the google nexus sold out so quick. Unlocked phones costs full price locked phones from your carrier cost a fraction of the price
Freedom Kira:
--- Quote from: metro. on November 17, 2012, 09:05:13 AM ---Didn't realize you were Canadian Freedom...
Still, point stands that Canada, and the States, for some reason has this thing with locking phones. I know now that Telus is unlocking them for free, and I think I read somewhere everyone else is going to be doing it now too. Thankfully.
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Indeed I am. It's not really a secret.
I heard about the free unlocking as well. I'm not sure if it has anything to do with the recent push by OpenMedia.ca, or if they're doing it out of an attempt to draw in customers. On the other hand, the problem of getting your phone unlocked vs. getting a phone that has never been locked still stands.
--- Quote from: mgz on November 17, 2012, 10:26:01 AM ---and the reason they start off locked adn with their garbage is the same reason you pay 199 for a 600$ phone and why the google nexus sold out so quick. Unlocked phones costs full price locked phones from your carrier cost a fraction of the price
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Continuing with my personal experience, the phone I got was the Nokia 5300 XpressMusic and I paid $250 for it. I really don't think it was worth more than that, even back in the day.
mgz:
--- Quote from: Freedom Kira on November 17, 2012, 10:30:16 AM ---
--- Quote from: metro. on November 17, 2012, 09:05:13 AM ---Didn't realize you were Canadian Freedom...
Still, point stands that Canada, and the States, for some reason has this thing with locking phones. I know now that Telus is unlocking them for free, and I think I read somewhere everyone else is going to be doing it now too. Thankfully.
--- End quote ---
Indeed I am. It's not really a secret.
I heard about the free unlocking as well. I'm not sure if it has anything to do with the recent push by OpenMedia.ca, or if they're doing it out of an attempt to draw in customers. On the other hand, the problem of getting your phone unlocked vs. getting a phone that has never been locked still stands.
--- Quote from: mgz on November 17, 2012, 10:26:01 AM ---and the reason they start off locked adn with their garbage is the same reason you pay 199 for a 600$ phone and why the google nexus sold out so quick. Unlocked phones costs full price locked phones from your carrier cost a fraction of the price
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Continuing with my personal experience, the phone I got was the Nokia 5300 XpressMusic and I paid $250 for it. I really don't think it was worth more than that, even back in the day.
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my point of reference is the top of the line phones which generally have a 500-700$ price tag and a 199-299 price tag if you buy them through a carrier.
for instance nokia lumia 920 100$ with contract at att. 450 without
samsung rugby 2 rugged flip phone - 100 with 270 without
even the shitty flip phones that are free or 20$ with contract are like 100-200 without one
the without contract pricing is equivalent roughly to buying a unlocked phone. And you can get the locked phones unlocked, although that doesnt help much with verizon phones or sprint phones unless they are global capable and have simcard slots
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