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Help with Win 8 feedback buy or not to buy?

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MyonMyon:
I'm sure many will agree with you even though it's kinda silly as there haven't been many real arguments against windows 8 in this topic. But let's see what has been said against it:


--- Quote ---I recommend opting for Windows 7 anyway - there are far too many problems with Windows 8 for it to be worth upgrading yet, given the choice, IMO.
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So there are many problems with windows 8 but you don't tell us what they are? Does not really sound like a convincing argument.


--- Quote ---Win8 is kinda ridiculous
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No reason given why it would be ridiculous.


--- Quote ---XP - good
Vista - bad
W7 - good
W8 - CAN YOU FILL IN THE PATTERN??
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This is not even an argument.


--- Quote ---With that said... it's intelligent to NEVER upgrade to an OS until it's been out for a good 6 months to a year so all of the bugs and kinks are all worked out and generally the first major service pack is released.
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Future updates will of course make the OS better. However, it's not like the current version is a pile of bugs. Personally i've experienced zero bugs and I don't see why someone else should have a load of them. The release should be pretty stable. Would you wait 6 months after a game is out so that every single bug is fixed before you spend your cash?


--- Quote ---But many people don't like the new interface at all and encounter problems, so most simply don't bother...
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--- Quote ---It's somewhat painful to use
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--- Quote ---there isnt any real benefit to grabbing a win8 laptop, and using that shitty interface bleck
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--- Quote ---That would depend on the UI look/feel for the most part.
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--- Quote ---But with Windows 8, you can just skip the garbage unless you're using a touch screen tablet device, cause you absolutely do not want it for a desktop PC. It'll drive you insane.

Metro is, basically, fucktarded.
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As expected, nearly every complaint in this thread is about Metro. Yes, many people don't like Metro, this is true. However, even if you don't like metro, it does not hinder your normal desktop usage in any way as it is not required to use the interface while using your PC. Don't like it ---> Don't use it ---> ??? ---> Profit.

The only non-metro-related arguments are that windows 8 has "bugs" and "lots of problems". I haven't encountered any of these and the complainers have given no examples. Most likely they haven't even tried windows 8 and thus make a general complaint about bugs and problems, about which you could complain anywhere.

I have nothing personal against any of the quoted posters. I'm not a windows 8 "fanboy", either. I don't think its the best thing that happened to my PC nor do I think it's that much better than windows 7. I just got it, expecting really nothing special and found it to have some advantages over the previous OS's. But even if it is just a little bit better and you have the choice, why not get it?

Bob2004:
OK, yeah, sorry, my bad. I obviously got confused about which thread I was posting in. I meant if you read back through the other, 9 page thread about Windows 8. But just for your convenience, I'll quote one of my posts there which sums up some of my reasons for not upgrading:


--- Quote from: Bob2004 on November 20, 2012, 09:24:07 PM ---Personally, it's not just that I don't like the Metro UI, it's a matter of principle as well. I really, really, really do not like the walled garden approach Microsoft are starting to take with Windows 8. They're clearly trying to move towards an Apple app store approach where you're only allowed to install applications downloaded from their own store - they haven't gone quite that far yet, but even as it is only applications downloaded from the Windows store are allowed to use any of the new Metro features. I really don't want them to go any further in that direction, hence, I refuse to support them by using Windows 8.

Of course, the fact I hate the Metro UI is part of it as well - I don't want to encourage Microsoft to develop Windows further in this direction. So I won't buy it. And I won't even pirate it, unless I'm forced to for some reason.

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There are other reasons people have posted too, of course. One of the main ones being that it's new and untested. You dismiss that argument by comparing it to games, but the difference between your computer's OS and a video game is that the only impact of a video game crashing is that you may lose some progress; at worst, you can't play that one game. If a bug in the OS cropped up, it could cause all sorts of problems, and for those of us who rely on our PCs in order to do work (I have a huge long report I'm working on at the moment which would be a thousand times harder if I couldn't do it on my PC), we cannot risk an as-yet undiscovered bug popping up and destroying our system.

Waiting 6 months gives all those people who have to be on the cutting-edge time to use it, uncover all the most common bugs, and then gives Microsoft time to fix them. So that when we eventually do upgrade (not that there's much benefit to doing so yet anyway), we can be reasonably certain it'll be relatively stable, and we don't need to worry about risking our work.

This is the exact same reason businesses have for not upgrading to new operating systems at the first possible opportunity. Businesses will all wait 6 months at the very least, often several years, before upgrading, because they need to know their OS is rock solid. If their entire network gets brought down by a previously-unknown bug, it could cost them a fortune in lost productivity.

MyonMyon:
I didn't actually read through the other thread so I have missed your comment there.

What you wrote, is indeed a valid reason to wait a bit until the service packs. It's true that win 8 being a new OS, there may be bugs/other issues we aren't yet aware of which could be a slight risk if you are using the computer for important work stuff (though you should always have backups of this kind of work). I understand businesses don't want to take any risks of possible bugs. For example my university still has XP on their computers (though they are going to upgrade). It's the same thing every time a new OS comes out.

However, there is a difference between possible unrevealed bugs/problems and the OS being "buggy and having lots of problems". They wouldn't release a bugged product which causes problems to users. I have never experienced these problems yet, and neither has my friend who also got windows 8. That's only two people, of course, but based on our experience I, myself, trust the OS to be quite stable enough for anything I'm doing with it. Even if the whole OS magically got messed up and wouldn't even boot, I would still lose nothing. So if there's a risk, it's a pretty small one. We would have already heard it on every tech site on the web if the OS really had big stability problems or bugs.

megido-rev.M:
Ideally, perhaps.
Though as far as MS goes, it's give or take on whether a new Windows is robust on its initial release.

Freedom Kira:

--- Quote from: MyonMyon on November 22, 2012, 05:05:07 PM ---They wouldn't release a bugged product which causes problems to users.

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This very comment shows the difference between a new user and a longtime user of Windows. You clearly haven't experienced Windows ME. While it was a long time ago and Windows has not screwed up nearly as badly since, the experience of having gone through ME lives on in people's hearts and will forever taint the image they have of Microsoft.

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