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megido-rev.M:
That is a pretty lame code name seeing as I've never seen it mentioned anywhere.

Freedom Kira:

--- Quote from: Tiffanys on November 23, 2012, 11:42:57 AM ---... I wasn't even talking to you. I was talking to MyonMyon.

--- End quote ---

You probably should have quoted him. I thought you were aiming it at Saras too, when I saw your initial post, and my initial reaction was basically "wow."

Tiffanys:
Disagree with != troll

If you watched the videos you'd see my exact reasons for disliking W8, considering those videos are what made my decision. Check out the 3rd video in particular.

Basically: Metro is terrible. The OS itself could probably be a pretty nice improvement, but they went and fucked it up with Metro. Go ahead and watch that video... it's not a hate video, it's a review. It actually lists good things about the OS too.

Sad reality is, Metro makes Windows 8 a no-buy for most people that aren't using touch screens.

If they made built-in options to remove Metro and enable the Start Menu for the desktop version then maybe I would actually consider the OS. But as it is, it's just not a big enough leap from Vista or 7 to bother jumping. I expect, personally, that they'll learn from their mistakes (yet again) when they bomb sales and it'll either be 'fixed' at a later stage (1-2 years down the line), or that their next OS will avoid these mistakes.

(click to show/hide)The reason it has to be Microsoft and built-in is because if it isn't then at some point later down the road the functionality that currently disables Metro or restores the Start Menu that people have been using may be patched out or removed entirely, or even just broken. And what then? Then you're sitting there with a broken nearly unusable OS.
I don't see Windows 8 being a huge commercial success because the majority of Windows sells are corporations and no sane Sys Admin will want Windows 8.

One of the biggest arguments against Metro is that it's just inconvenient in a non-touch environment.


* When you right click something, the contextual menu isn't under your mouse, it's instead down at the bottom which puts extra miles on your mouse.
* Most of the Windows 8 apps scroll sideways with vertical scroll and if there is a frame inside the window with a vertical scroll then it will break out of the horizontal scroll and start vertically scrolling that window.
* Some important things are difficult or not possible to find or do with Metro as a replacement to the Start Menu.
* The organization for Programs is very bad, random, and should be in folders. As it is now, it's a clusterfuck and non-productive.
I don't understand honestly why Metro concerns, sorry "Modern UI", are being overlooked. If they're points that are important to a lot of people, then they're pretty good reasons to either not buy or to wait for official changes.

"Modern UI" should have never made it to desktop. That's my honest opinion. Setting up a compatible OS for touch, that's fine. But don't bundle it on a desktop OS. That's just a design decision that will result in commercial failure.

Saras:

--- Quote from: Tiffanys on November 23, 2012, 10:09:39 PM ---If you watched the videos you'd see my exact reasons for disliking W8, considering those videos are what made my decision. Check out the 3rd video in particular.

I don't see Windows 8 being a huge commercial success because the majority of Windows sells are corporations and no sane Sys Admin will want Windows 8.


* Some important things are difficult or not possible to find or do with Metro as a replacement to the Start Menu.
--- End quote ---

It's a bad idea to give that as a "review", it's clear from the get go that they're learning as they go. So while it is a good approximation of how the first few hours will feel like for an advanced user that takes the plunge, it's not entirely correct in what it says. That is also a pre-release version.

That one is plain wrong. You can find everything in the metro environment. They just didn't show you how. They did the stupid thing of separating searches into three categories: Apps, Settings and Files. The lot that made that video clearly didn't notice that. So no, it's not impossible to find, but it does uselessly add another click.

Tatsujin:
Stick to Windows 7 and get CCCP. Change settings in MPC to Haali Splitters (personal preference). And that is it.

We bought an HP laptop (Core i3 2nd generation, 768p, 4GB Ram) for my sister on Black Friday. It was a really good deal. The downside to that? Windows 8. Not like I really care. I left it on there and I play around with it to understand how this shitty OS works. The stability is pretty nice, but most third party programs don't work well and it has some issues laying around. I've still yet to try out CCCP with an anime video (is that site down? I can't seem to download the CCCP file off of there).

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