Author Topic: How to rip Anime DVD? (Read 3834 times)

Tiffanys · « **on:** November 28, 2012, 08:57:31 AM »

Anyone have any good tutorials on how to rip an Anime DVD specifically? I found a basic ripping guide here.

I suppose the main things would be knowing which episode I'm ripping, properly setting up & naming the audio/sub channels, and the encode settings.

Freedom Kira · « **Reply #1 on:** November 28, 2012, 10:10:32 AM »

Handbrake is simple enough to use without a guide. I'm sure you can play around with it and figure it out.

Just note that Handbrake can't decrypt DVDs, so you'll likely need DVD Decrypter if you're ripping a commercial anime DVD.

And another note, DVDs are split into tracks, and each episode should be split into its own track. If you're not so lucky, all the episodes might be in one track and split by chapters. In any case, after adding the ripped DVD, Handbrake will populate the drop-down list of tracks (see the image under step 4 in the guide you linked). Select the track you want and the chapters you want, using the preview window to see what you're choosing.

Tiffanys · « **Reply #2 on:** November 28, 2012, 10:11:57 AM »

That's the point, I don't wanna do a lot of playing around... this stuff takes a long time to encode. @_@

Freedom Kira · « **Reply #3 on:** November 29, 2012, 02:29:16 AM »

A single episode shouldn't take too long. Unless you're running on >10 years old hardware?

Tiffanys · « **Reply #4 on:** November 29, 2012, 05:44:19 AM »

Right, so you're going to be zero help. Lovely, thanks. This is the reason that I post threads asking for help, to not be helped.

buchno · « **Reply #5 on:** November 29, 2012, 05:59:01 AM »

Do you mean something like this?

vuzedome · « **Reply #6 on:** November 29, 2012, 11:42:26 AM »

Just like ripping any other normal DVD.

kitamesume · « **Reply #7 on:** November 29, 2012, 11:50:05 AM »

Quote from: vuzedome on November 29, 2012, 11:42:26 AM

Just like ripping any other normal DVD.

+1

and google helps.

edit: simply put, you're asking on the wrong forums. try contacting encode groups, they tend to have forums or IRC there too, like coalgirls or thora.

Tiffanys · « **Reply #8 on:** November 29, 2012, 12:04:23 PM »

I mean like the handbrake profiles that tend to be the "good" settings for encoding anime. Like the bitrate to use, and all the specific little flags or whatever I need... I know that with anime due to the colors, those settings can make a really huge deal, so that's why I was asking so I could get some tips from experienced anime encoders that have found the settings that give the best results. I can follow generic guides for the other stuff.

I just don't want to be experimenting when I have to do like ~78 episodes. I mean, some kind of target size ~350MB isn't going to come out as good as someone that knows the proper settings to use. I guess people probably use average bitrate instead... like 1386kbps to 2036kbps or something.

Would taking encode settings from some anime I've seen's Properties>MediaInfo be a good idea? Something like...

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cabac=1 / ref=16 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=10 / psy=1 / fade_compensate=0.70 / psy_rd=0.60:0.50 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=24 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-4 / threads=18 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / fgo=0 / bframes=10 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=23 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=40 / rc=crf / mbtree=1 / crf=19.0 / qcomp=0.70 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=81 / qpstep=4 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=2:0.80

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General
Unique ID                      : 236988137683124987355701769722367877165 (0xB24A414D1C10967E8AE23A27CE68A02D)
Complete name                  : I:\Files\Anime\[Commie] Guilty Crown\[Commie] Guilty Crown - 01 [662BB1FD].mkv
Format                         : Matroska
Format version                 : Version 2
File size                      : 334 MiB
Duration                       : 22mn 54s
Overall bit rate               : 2 036 Kbps
Encoded date                   : UTC 2011-10-13 21:34:46
Writing application            : mkvmerge v4.1.1 ('Bouncin' Back') built on Jul  3 2010 22:54:08
Writing library                : libebml v1.0.0 + libmatroska v1.0.0
Attachment                     : Yes / Yes / Yes / Yes / Yes / Yes / Yes / Yes / Yes / Yes

Video
ID                             : 1
Format                         : AVC
Format/Info                    : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                 : High 10@L5.0
Format settings, CABAC         : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames      : 16 frames
Codec ID                       : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration                       : 22mn 54s
Width                          : 1 280 pixels
Height                         : 720 pixels
Display aspect ratio           : 16:9
Frame rate                     : 23.976 fps
Color space                    : YUV
Chroma subsampling             : 4:2:0
Bit depth                      : 10 bits
Scan type                      : Progressive
Writing library                : x264 core 118 r2085+614 d1cc25d
Encoding settings              : cabac=1 / ref=16 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=10 / psy=1 / fade_compensate=0.70 / psy_rd=0.60:0.50 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=24 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-4 / threads=18 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / fgo=0 / bframes=10 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=23 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=40 / rc=crf / mbtree=1 / crf=19.0 / qcomp=0.70 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=81 / qpstep=4 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=2:0.80
Language                       : English
Default                        : Yes
Forced                         : No

Audio
ID                             : 2
Format                         : AAC
Format/Info                    : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile                 : LC
Codec ID                       : A_AAC
Duration                       : 22mn 54s
Channel(s)                     : 2 channels
Channel positions              : Front: L R
Sampling rate                  : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode               : Lossy
Title                          : Commie
Language                       : Japanese
Default                        : Yes
Forced                         : No

Text
ID                             : 3
Format                         : ASS
Codec ID                       : S_TEXT/ASS
Codec ID/Info                  : Advanced Sub Station Alpha
Compression mode               : Lossless
Default                        : Yes
Forced                         : No

Menu
00:00:00.033                   : en:Intro / OP
00:03:55.902                   : en:Part A
00:10:29.896                   : en:Part B
00:21:18.444                   : en:ED
00:22:49.902                   : en:NotAPreview

Well, I have awhile. It's gonna have to wait til my ISP's bandwidth period is over anyways. And, well... my LCS is out of coolant (rather, the coolant in it is so old that it's barely working anymore and I'm being underclocked to like 1.5GHz so I don't overheat my CPU) and the new coolant won't be here til like sometime between tomorrow and the 5th. So a super CPU intensive thing'll have to wait. I think my bandwidth period is like the 9th or 10th or something... I dunno.

kureshii · « **Reply #9 on:** November 29, 2012, 02:37:43 PM »

Encoding settings are not a magic wand for good filesizes and nice image quality. The problem with DVDs, and anime DVDs in particular, is interlacing, which looks like ass, and hurts compressibility. You want small filesize and good-looking encodes, you’ll have to learn how to IVTC properly. And that’s beyond the scope of any “simple” guide.

If you have 78 episodes to encode and don’t want to spend much effort or time, play with the detelecine/decomb/deinterlace filters in Handbrake picture settings until you get something you like. For the encoding part, use the x264 medium preset (default settings) with perhaps animation tuning, and control quality with crf (RF setting under Video in Handbrake, in “constant quality” mode). Here’s a sample Mediainfo output from such an encoded file:

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For convenience, you might want to add the following into your presets file. It should simulate the above settings as closely as possible (Handbrake does not have control over some options):

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Try various RF settings (18–23 suggested) in Handbrake until you arrive at a filesize/quality you like for one episode. Then you can set up batch jobs for all 78 episodes (assuming everything turns out fine).

Are these the optimum encoding settings? Probably not. There isn’t a single one-size-fits-all setting for encoding anything, although encoder-people may have preferred settings they may or may not understand.

I’m not sure how Handbrake handles vobsubs, but chances are it’s not going to do OCR (optical character recognition) for you, so you’re going to have to do more googling there.

Tiffanys · « **Reply #10 on:** November 29, 2012, 04:11:40 PM »

That's very helpful, thank you kureshii.

kitamesume · « **Reply #11 on:** November 29, 2012, 11:01:22 PM »

the reason why you're having a hard time asking around is like i said above, you're asking on the wrong forums.

or to be more exact, you're asking an encoder's rule of thumb when it comes to transcoding DVDs, you'll have to ask the encoders themselves to know how they do it and which settings tends to give the best results.

so seriously, bark on the right tree for once.

Tiffanys · « **Reply #12 on:** November 30, 2012, 09:20:15 AM »

It's an anime tracker. Lots of encoders actually post here. It's good enough.

And what's that supposed to mean anyways? "so seriously, bark on the right tree for once."

kitamesume · « **Reply #13 on:** November 30, 2012, 10:16:59 AM »

you'd be lucky if they'd even post here. like, it took your a day and a half to get something worth while.

ever heard of "you're barking on the wrong tree"?
i mean, can't you just ask, PM for that matter, a real encoder instead of posting here in general? you're asking to get bitched in posting such a preference-specific thing here, like how you got harassed by kira for posting here.

Tiffanys · « **Reply #14 on:** November 30, 2012, 10:19:05 AM »

If someone wants to act like a jerk, then that's on them. If all you have to say is just to berate me, then don't post. Pretty simple.

kitamesume · « **Reply #15 on:** November 30, 2012, 10:23:00 AM »

...

im simply saying you should ask someone who knows directly, instead of asking everyone else and hoping someone knows.
what you're doing is akin to asking your classmates of what the prof said, hoping that someone payed attention, instead of asking the prof himself.

like, come on, stop doing stuffs in such a round about manner.

vuzedome · « **Reply #16 on:** November 30, 2012, 10:44:56 AM »

I think this would've turned out much better in the Playback Help section.

Tiffanys · « **Reply #17 on:** November 30, 2012, 10:46:46 AM »

Blubart moved it for some retarded reason. I originally posted it here.

Freedom Kira · « **Reply #18 on:** November 30, 2012, 10:48:25 AM »

Quote from: kitamesume on November 30, 2012, 10:16:59 AM

... like how you got harassed by kira for posting here.

Quote from: Tiffanys on November 30, 2012, 10:19:05 AM

If someone wants to act like a jerk, then that's on them. If all you have to say is just to berate me, then don't post. Pretty simple.

I sure hope that's not how I came across, because that was definitely not my intention. Whatever though.

kureshii · « **Reply #19 on:** December 01, 2012, 02:38:18 AM »

Quote from: Tiffanys on November 30, 2012, 10:46:46 AM

Blubart moved it for some retarded reason. I originally posted it here.

That board is for asking for help with torrenting, and with the site, not meant for help with other things like choosing a laptop, ripping DVDs, etc.

You are asking in the wrong place, but not for the reasons thrown up by kitamesume. Most encoder-people here are running on quad/hex/octo-core desktops and have no qualms using low-crf (high quality), slow settings. They also spend much more time messing with filters and filterchains than on encoding settings. What they end up with is something for which a simple guide can’t be written (or there would be tons out there!).

On the other hand, you’re asking for a simple guide, or a no-playing-around-just-gimme-the-MKV tool. If you’ve seen the other MKV ripping/encoding threads here, people typically ask for help with simple steps, like transcoding/remuxing MKV to MP4, not for a whole DVD-ripping process.

Perhaps a couple of folks here might have tried ripping DVDs with Handbrake, but the majority here either

1) would never entertain the thought of using Handbrake for DVD-ripping.
2) tried it for a bit, went back to complicated toolchains instead (like me).
3) have managed to do it successfully once, but would never waste time doing it again. Would rather find encoders to do it for them.
4) have done it a few times, but relied on so much googling that it’s probably too hard for them to write a simple guide (especially for deinterlacing/decombing).

If you’re asking for help with the tools most folks here use (MeGUI, x264, Avisynth, Subrip, etc), I’m sure there’re plenty of qualified people who can help. If you need a do-it-all program though, you’re likely better off asking on Handbrake help forums or other places where people use them.