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GoGeTa006:
Im helping my roomate building his first new rig, he did most of it himself but now it just randomly restarts, sometimes before even loading the startup screen, sometimes 5 minutes in, sometimes 1 minute into system startup

System:
- MSI motherboard
- Radeon HD 6870
- 2x 4GB DDR3 1600
- AMD Quad

anyways, I have tried the following and I am like 90% sure its the motherboard:

- Using only 1 RAM stick, trying in the different slots, still had the same issue
- Starting in safe mode and updating all the mobo drivers and graphics drivers to latest version
- Reinstalling windows
- Installing my video card (GeForce 9800 GTX+ with newest drivers)


So far, all of them have yielded the same results, I am assuming it has to do something with the motherboard or something because if I start in safe mode it doesnt crash (it doesnt load all of the drivers), I thought it could be the video card but after trying with a different video card thats known to work (I  use it) it still had that issue.

Anyone know any other "tests" I could perform to be 100% sure its the motherboard?

what I will try next is connecting the video card to the 2nd PCIe port, but that'll wait for tomorrow since I have to take out the PSU (I hate bottom-mounted PSU's)

anyways, any suggestions for diagnosing are very much welcome

arigato

kureshii:
Run memtest86 on each memory stick, in each RAM slot. Should help you eliminate RAM or mobo as the culprit (if they are in fact responsible).

kitamesume:
it sounds like the PSU is getting overloaded and shutting down, try swapping the PSU? you didnt mention the PSU as well.

edit: try this first -

run the whole PC as only

* 1x hdd
* 1x ram
* mobo
* cpu
* psuand nothing else, if it runs pretty stable without the gpu and others, it may be the GPU(unlikely though), the motherboard, or the PSU cant handle the load.

rostheferret:
Like was said, systematically check everything else first. Try running without the gfx card at all, then you at least know it has something to do with the card. If it runs fine in safe mode, it won't be loading those drivers either. It's possible the PSU is being overloaded - in fact, it sounds likely - but it's also possible there was a compatibility issue between the gfx card and the mobo. Usually they pick up on these issues pretty quick so make sure the BIOS is updated. I had an issue where the mobo had a "power saver" feature, which cut power to anything it didn't think was being used. Ergo: it kept cutting the power to my gfx card if I left it for a few minutes causing it to freeze. Slightly different result, but eh, either way it's probably worth updating the BIOS anyway. RAM errors usually causes a stack overflow and blue screen to my knowledge, but it's best to check every possibility.

kitamesume:
^ this reminds me of the old issues of motherboards hating certain CPUs, specially when you put an AM3+ on an AM3 board, not every AM3 board supports an AM3+ CPU.

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