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Starting to build my new rig, looking for opinions
Tatsujin:
--- Quote from: GoGeTa006 on December 03, 2012, 10:54:55 PM ---
--- Quote from: buchno on December 03, 2012, 10:24:33 PM ---One disadvantage of getting one of the K-series is that they don't have VT-d (which is used to game in Virtualbox, for example).
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I am not too familiar but isnt virtual machine something that wouldnt apply here since all the processing is done in the local and not some host? (AFAIK Virtual machine is like cloud computing? like an emulated computer that does all the processing for you while you just get the results)
that article talks about linux and stuff (still reading), so Im assuming that user is running multiple instances, where I see how virtual machines might come in handy, but for my purposes I dont think I'll be doing that, here is a little more about what I plan on doing:
- Heavy gaming
- Photoshop/Flash/Adobe stuff enthusiast
- Sony Vegas/Adobe Premiere enthusiast
- Engineering CAD (Solidworks and ProE mostly) for school, and hopefully work sometime soon
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and well offcourse all those basics, web surfing, torrenting, playing minesweeper. . .
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Go with the i7. Get a nice big case with lots of airflow if you do and especially if you're going to overclock. Get a good PSU, too. I use the DF-85 (Newegg) case and it's one hell of a fucking case (expensive, too). There are other good cases out there, too. Two things to note about this - you don't get a lot of dust, barely any and the fans are very quiet. It's stylish and pretty looking.
Btw GoGeTa, Avoid AMD and save yourself the headache. Invest in performance and stability = Intel.
kitamesume:
the problem with the i7 though is it's "125$ more than i5" price tag, it'll push the budget a little too out of hand for the sole reason of filling up the niche requirements where an i5 should be enough even if its slightly slower.
a GTX660Ti should be the minimum card for superb gaming and it starts at 200$ which already has the budget really pushed up.
if you manage to wait till march-april 2013 this is the sort of build you'd wanna go with
(click to show/hide)[$200.99]Intel Core i5-nonK Haswell (3.5Ghz stock : 4.0Ghz turbo-ish) - or [ $250 i5-K haswell ]
[$150.99]whatever motherboard with pretty features
[$66.99]G.SKILL Ares Series 16GB(2x8GB)DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
[$250.99]Nvidia GTX 760 2GB DDR5 (rumors has it that it'll be on the same performance level of GTX 670)
[$39.99]NZXT Source 210 S210-002
[$67.99]SeaSonic S12II 520 Bronze 520W
[$149.99]256GB SSD SIII(rumors says it'll drop price by this much, evident enough since some of them are starting to touch $180)
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[total] - 927.93
edit: oh and i suggest you buy two SSDs, one solely for the OS and the other for programs and games, its to split the load so that the SSDs wouldn't queue the read/write operations.
i've heard of issues where the SSD becomes unresponsive during read/write operations.
GoGeTa006:
--- Quote from: kitamesume on December 10, 2012, 07:16:47 AM ---the problem with the i7 though is it's "125$ more than i5" price tag, it'll push the budget a little too out of hand for the sole reason of filling up the niche requirements where an i5 should be enough even if its slightly slower.
a GTX660Ti should be the minimum card for superb gaming and it starts at 200$ which already has the budget really pushed up.
if you manage to wait till march-april 2013 this is the sort of build you'd wanna go with
(click to show/hide)[$200.99]Intel Core i5-nonK Haswell (3.5Ghz stock : 4.0Ghz turbo-ish) - or [ $250 i5-K haswell ]
[$150.99]whatever motherboard with pretty features
[$66.99]G.SKILL Ares Series 16GB(2x8GB)DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
[$250.99]Nvidia GTX 760 2GB DDR5 (rumors has it that it'll be on the same performance level of GTX 670)
[$39.99]NZXT Source 210 S210-002
[$67.99]SeaSonic S12II 520 Bronze 520W
[$149.99]256GB SSD SIII(rumors says it'll drop price by this much, evident enough since some of them are starting to touch $180)
---------------------------------------------
[total] - 927.93
edit: oh and i suggest you buy two SSDs, one solely for the OS and the other for programs and games, its to split the load so that the SSDs wouldn't queue the read/write operations.
i've heard of issues where the SSD becomes unresponsive during read/write operations.
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damn really?
AFAIK you only "load" once, I mean the OS loads into memory and the SSD isnt used to load any OS things anymore. . .and if you are loading a game. . .you arent "queuing" anything up if its just the game (the OS and any other programs should already be loaded). . .right?
the Nvidia 7 series are gonna be that cheap for reals? source?
kitamesume:
not all games are equally HDD extensive, but some games do access the HDD often, specially ones that loads maps, loads textures and saves files all the time(minecraft says hiiii).
as for the OS loading most of its components into the ram, yes its true, but not everything, it doesn't load components that aren't requested(you can imagine how would a 30+GB OS be entirely loaded when OS ram usage is 4GB and below depending on total ram capacity), but if the SSD is busy it'd queue the operation.
also, i haven't seen much reviews about read and write being done at the same time, the issues i've heard were that read speed plummets during writing.
i'm not sure if this issue is common and/or has already been fixed, but its a good thing to keep such in mind as precaution.
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/e7/archive/2009/05/05/support-and-q-a-for-solid-state-drives-and.aspx
--- Quote ---When presented with realistic workloads, we see the worst of the SSDs producing very long IO times as well, as much as one half to one full second to complete individual random write and flush requests. This is abysmal for many workloads and can make the entire system feel choppy, unresponsive and sluggish.
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i bumped the 2013 rumor thread for the GTX780 being 40-55% faster than GTX680 while maintaining the same price, it should then be quite obvious that the same thing could happen on the lower end if the rumors were true.
kureshii:
--- Quote from: kitamesume on December 10, 2012, 07:16:47 AM ---if you manage to wait till march-april 2013 this is the sort of build you'd wanna go with
(click to show/hide)[$200.99]Intel Core i5-nonK Haswell (3.5Ghz stock : 4.0Ghz turbo-ish) - or [ $250 i5-K haswell ]
[$150.99]whatever motherboard with pretty features
[$66.99]G.SKILL Ares Series 16GB(2x8GB)DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
[$250.99]Nvidia GTX 760 2GB DDR5 (rumors has it that it'll be on the same performance level of GTX 670)
[$39.99]NZXT Source 210 S210-002
[$67.99]SeaSonic S12II 520 Bronze 520W
[$149.99]256GB SSD SIII(rumors says it'll drop price by this much, evident enough since some of them are starting to touch $180)
---------------------------------------------
[total] - 927.93
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Not march–april; Haswell is more likely to be out closer to June.
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