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Starting to build my new rig, looking for opinions
Ivon:
I don't know. It may, it does appear that all i5 (1155 pin) chips run Shader Model 4.0; DOTA 2 requires Shader Model 2.0.
But you'd be looking at an extremely unplayable level of gaming. Even if you got say an i7 (1155 pin). Intel's tech people specifically say that the built in GPUs are for entry-level gaming (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JGxMdwJ1Rjk#!). When they say "mainstream gaming" they're talking running a game at a combination of Low and Medium settings....usually Shadows set to Low and Texture Quality set to Medium.
...which frankly leave the game looking like shit.
As for Video cards, look at the prices now for the 600 series. The 700 series will be that plus maybe a 10% markup (just because they can). And I highly doubt any games will test the ability of the 670 or better cards for at least another two years (2015; it's so close to 2013 now).
metro.:
--- Quote from: GoGeTa006 on December 30, 2012, 12:24:47 AM ---I was thinking, what if I just get the i5 with no vid card, and see whats up with nvidia mid year?
Do you think an i5 can handle dota2 and cs:go?
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My laptop can handle DotA 2. It doesn't handle it WELL, but it does handle it.
Tatsujin:
--- Quote from: GoGeTa006 on December 14, 2012, 05:34:31 AM ---The i3?
are you serious? wouldnt that completely bottleneck a 3 - 4 GB card?
anyways, anyone recommend any cases?
as I mentioned I was just looking over mATX and mITX, just because the cases look "iknteresting" thats what caught my attention, then I found the Lian Li PC-U6 and I completely fell in love with it. . .but its fucking expensive. . .
anyone know other companies that make "interesting" designs, but remain at a reasonable price (under 150)?
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Whats your budget on cases?
Also, go with the i5. It's just better.
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I read over the GTX 600 series vs. the GTX 700 series. So this is a good tip for you GoGeTa, save up for the GTX 770 as it will be the dominate video card for next generation and the best bang for your dollar.
kitamesume:
playing a waiting game? bah, if you end up doing it then just aim for haswell+GTX770 entirely.
--- Quote from: Ivon on December 14, 2012, 07:13:45 PM ---I would not go with this ITX, that is strictly for HTPC (aka Media Center computer).
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http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?p=1038990325
has it ever occurred to you that the definition of "gaming PC" is simply a PC that can game?
Tiffanys:
I'd go for an i5 2500K ($219) to be honest. If you aren't doing something crazy like encoding or rendering you don't need the i7.
As for Micro/ITX - I do not recommend them. Unless you just severely need the extra space, it's a bad choice. The inside of your computer will be hotter and less ventilated, and more crowded. It can be difficult to fit in the newer GPU's and can prevent use of some RAM. Just go with as big as possible.
If I was gonna build a new PC I'd do something like so...
CPU
$219 - Core i5-2500K LGA 1155 - Newegg
Motherboard
$179 - ASUS Maximus IV Gene-Z Z68 LGA 1155 - Newegg - ASUS
Thoughts: It has SupremeFX X-Fi 2 built in that I like, otherwise looks nearly identical to the P67 Maximus IV Extreme, except it isn't at heart-attack prices like its $329 P67 Extreme counterpart.
PSU
$189 - CORSAIR Professional Series Gold AX850 - Newegg
Thoughts: Well, it's a good one. I'm going to have a lot of HDD's and fans, so it's probably needed.
Case
$159 - Thermaltake Chaser MK-I - Newegg - Thermaltake
Thoughts: It has the removable screwless HDD trays (that I love on my Armor+LCS), screwless PCI stuff, a decent enough amount of fans, 2 front USB 3.0 ports, looks nice, and etc... And it looks like you can turn the LED's off. Lots of space too... It also has some sturdy looking feet that keep it up a bit, which I think are nice. I wish the case I have now had those... Though, it does have gobs of features I don't care about or will never use, but oh well. It's about standard pricing as far as cases go.
SSD
$236 - Intel 510 SATA III 120GB SSD (450R/210W) - Newegg
or
$579 - Intel 510 SATA III 250GB SSD (500R/315W) - Newegg
Thoughts: These two are probably a bit outdated now since I made this list ~5 months ago, but... Intel is a pretty solid SSD brand. It's only gonna be for Boot+OS+essential programs though. Storage will be on HDD's.
CPU Cooler
$69 - ZALMAN CNPS11X Extreme - Newegg
Thoughts: Overall from my current setup I learned to avoid liquid cooling. I have liquid cooling and I hate it and I could do just as good if not better on (non-stock) air. So, with that out of the way... this one looks fairly nice and it specifically says it fits LGA 1155 and it's way smaller than some of the super popular ones... Comparisons. Not all that much different temps either. Bad thing is, it has a blue LED. fml. pic1 | pic2 | more - looks pretty small. I'd probably want to go to ~4-4.5Ghz, I suppose this could probably do it. Overall, I'd want to keep looking for a better choice for this since I want to stay away from blue LED's completely.
Okay, let's stop for a moment and let me rant about blue LED's...
If you're going for LED's, go for red. Or rather, go for blue LED if it's not going to be in your bedroom. But if it's going to be in your bedroom either go for red or none. The reason why is that our circadian cycle is heavily effected by the light our eyes take in which tells our bodies what time it is. Blue spectrum light triggers awareness while red spectrum light triggers melatonin. Overall, just stay the hell away from LED's entirely if you can. But if you can't, avoid blue like the plague. If you sleep with a heavy blue LED computer case in your room you'll wake up feeling unrested and tired all the time and your eyes will hurt... it's because you couldn't really rest... the blue light kept sending your brain awareness signals rather than letting you rest. I've known it for a long time, but it's been proven in scientific studies: http://t.co/ohPRXi8Y http://t.co/HNXeCVkk
The only thing left really is GPU/RAM/Optical drives. I already have those, so I didn't bother listing them. That stuff's pretty easy to figure out though.
For GPU's go for some NVIDIA one in the x7-x8 range. They tend to have it so x6 is low end, x7 is mid end, x8 is high end, and x9 is super insane overkill. Always go for the newest generation GPU though since it'll have the newest technologies.
I have I believe a 560 Ti right now, cause it's a bit better than my GTX 280 I had which started to die on me. Not overheat or anything, just bad. Lot's of unpleasant random BSOD's and no abnormal heat ranges whatsoever from my GPU or CPU. Replaced the GPU with the new one and ta-da problem solved. Sadly that was like the last thing I tried replacing since I determined it wasn't overheating first, lol... I spent so much money for nothing.
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