Shingeki no Kyojin | Attack on Titan [Series] [SnK manga ends in 3 years]

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Got the creditless OP and FLAC TV ver. OP, wooo~!

[Mimishiki19]

The poorest criticism I've read yet. My co-worker had better criticism and he acknowledge the fact that the brand new squads had 0 experience with fighting and were between the ages of 15 to 17 (through the beginning of the anime). But I'll give you an advice.

Stop wasting your time and our time and go do something more valuable with yours. If you ought to not like SnK then might as well just let it all drop. Skipping almost any part in SnK will hurt proper build up and knowledge on understanding the flow of the series. Maybe the series in question is not for you but rather for the majority of others.

Poorest criticism I've read yet.My hamster had better criticism and he just barks all day in aramaic.
We've learned to look over the fact that when the world is about to end we entrust it's future to a 10-16 year old.It's anime.

My advice is stop wasting your time with insults trying to criticise other peoples posts without actually saying anything.
I know you're new to these things called forums but please try to learn.Look at mrdkreka or Nodame-chan.They at least say something.
I'm horrible at grammar and spacing.Go for those if you really want to make of fun of my opinions when you don't agree with them.

I do not hate the anime.I said it's fine, nice even but it doesn't deserve the hype.It's not the Alpha and Omega of anime.The story while great is not mind blowing with originality or mystery.If you take a look from a "higher" angle or brake the story in it's base components you'll see it's actually derivative.A closed off society, monster outside town limits, enemy amongst us, young protagonist with "unknown" power, etc.The pattern in which all of these are arranged isn't original either.

Don't think it's angst, it's despair.They are not saying "omg,if we lose we're fked".They are saying "we're fked and now we're doing this to get unfked".
It doesn't seem like much of difference but it is.I can't explain it properly but I'll try.
With angst you hope your characters won't die.With despair you know they will and now you're just watching the slaughter and get surprised when a few manage to survive.Problem is you've already given up hope and given up on the characters.

I can name many and we both know it.
I'm not skipping through because I don't like words and just want to see punching.I'm skipped through because they talk so damn slow.They are talking alot without actually saying anything of importance.
Character development? Where the hell is that? Episode 1 characters are the same as episode 25 characters.Only development I can think of is that guy that decided to go with the scouts instead of guards and that was a decision based on experience and not a change of character.
Maybe I'm not seeing the subtle changes.I'll admit that I didn't care enough to analyze their interactions.Name the changes they experience.

And now it's a wall of text....
Still there's too little wall crawling for a Spidermen anime.

[Mistgun_Zero]

Well everyone has their opinion's. But I think the pace, the story, angst and everything were as perfectly balanced as possible. And kudos to Studio for coming with such nice animations. (of course, some TV's scene were awful, but BD's seem to fix everything of that sort as far as I see). I now know what those guys at Production I.G. were guarding so secretly for past couple of months before this series came out. (I read a reporter's article and his visit and full tour of Production I.G. studio, they showed him mostly everything but he was threatened not to reveal some stuff they were working on).

Personally I am giving this series a 10/10. This is only the fourth anime I would rate it that high (I am sure I have already watched at least around 300 even if my MAL says otherwise)

And as usual for some nice interpretation.

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[mrdkreka]

The story while great is not mind blowing with originality or mystery.If you take a look from a "higher" angle or brake the story in it's base components you'll see it's actually derivative.A closed off society, monster outside town limits, enemy amongst us, young protagonist with "unknown" power, etc.The pattern in which all of these are arranged isn't original either.

Of course it can't be fully original, and there is quite a lot of mystery. In the manga they also point out, that even if they somehow managed to kill all the titans, would they even have solved anything, when they don't know the cause of it?
Nothing is original if you brake it down into its base component, but the funny thing about what you are stating are that they aren't actually the whole truth, but I can't say more without spoiling the anime.

Don't think it's angst, it's despair.They are not saying "omg,if we lose we're fked".They are saying "we're fked and now we're doing this to get unfked".
It doesn't seem like much of difference but it is.I can't explain it properly but I'll try.
With angst you hope your characters won't die.With despair you know they will and now you're just watching the slaughter and get surprised when a few manage to survive.Problem is you've already given up hope and given up on the characters.

A couple of things. When I say angst it is because that is the category this anime lies in, and it is the feeling that most of the characters are feeling.
The problem with calling it despair as your definition is the fact, that it will classify shows like GoT as it too. But this isn't really worth discussion much more, since it is just categorizing, instead I see that you don't like despair anime, and lets just leave it at that.

I can name many and we both know it.

And you also know that you can skip through it with ease with those you are thinking on. Quite often skipping is possible, because they need to build suspense up.

I'm not skipping through because I don't like words and just want to see punching.I'm skipped through because they talk so damn slow.They are talking alot without actually saying anything of importance.

Lets take the female titan arch in the forest, if those characters haven't said anything to create a personality nobody would have cared if they died. I can see what you mean, but I don't agree that they are talking to much, they might spend a bit to much time just standing places without moving forward, but you can take it as there hesitation they have because of the titans. 

Character development? Where the hell is that? Episode 1 characters are the same as episode 25 characters.Only development I can think of is that guy that decided to go with the scouts instead of guards and that was a decision based on experience and not a change of character.
Maybe I'm not seeing the subtle changes.I'll admit that I didn't care enough to analyze their interactions.Name the changes they experience.

What about Armin character development? Anyway this is a problem when the anime can't adapt all of its source, there is also quite a lot of character development going on that wont be revealed before later on.

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Still there's too little wall crawling for a Spidermen anime.

I actually quite like the 3DGM gear, because it is actually quite possible to make. This is one of the area where I'm mostly impressed by the mangaka to make something that fits so well with his titans, which is the second best part of SnK.

Anyways it isn't that you think the anime is bad, it is more that it isn't to your liking, and I doubt I can convince you otherwise. I'm also of the opinion that the anime with its 1 season, doesn't stop at a good place for it to being able to stand alone, but it will hopefully change in the years to come. The animation is good (in the BD) and the OST is also well composed.

[Takeshi]

I think I've watched the anime with the mouse over the skip forward for the last 20 episodes because I learned I really am not skipping over anything important even if it's a 5 minute skip for 10-15 secs of anime.

I can't take anything about this seriously if you truly skip in the episode. What a giant fuck-you to the people who made it. It's one of the worst things you can do when consuming entertainment. I know a guy who does it too, and it's insanely frustrating to see him do it.

I mean, if you're skipping why watch the show at all?

The combat animations were lacking as well.There were some good fights but most of the time you have: talking, someone uses 3d maneuvers to move around, talking, talking, someone uses 3d maneuvers to around but from an different angle, talking, talking, talking, hey look it's a titan let's talk about it half of the episode....talking, finally some attacks with 3d maneuvers....cliffh anger.

I'll admit that some of the 3D gear scenes were kind of "unique", but that only goes to show the level of ambition that they strove for. And I fully support it.

The anime is...nice.Though it doesn't really live up to it's hype.I've said it at episode 1 and I'll say it again: The pacing is killing the enjoyment.I wish those were it's only flaws but they're not.

Cam you elaborate what you mean? What bad pacing?

Episode 5 was the pinnacle of SnK imo. One of my favorite episodes of anime ever.

Still a lot of amazing eps after that, in my opinion. But yeah, the opening of that episode was fucking amazing.

[Tatsujin]

The poorest criticism I've read yet. My co-worker had better criticism and he acknowledge the fact that the brand new squads had 0 experience with fighting and were between the ages of 15 to 17 (through the beginning of the anime). But I'll give you an advice.

Stop wasting your time and our time and go do something more valuable with yours. If you ought to not like SnK then might as well just let it all drop. Skipping almost any part in SnK will hurt proper build up and knowledge on understanding the flow of the series. Maybe the series in question is not for you but rather for the majority of others.

Poorest criticism I've read yet.My hamster had better criticism and he just barks all day in aramaic.
We've learned to look over the fact that when the world is about to end we entrust it's future to a 10-16 year old.It's anime.

My advice is stop wasting your time with insults trying to criticise other peoples posts without actually saying anything.
I know you're new to these things called forums but please try to learn.Look at mrdkreka or Nodame-chan.They at least say something.
I'm horrible at grammar and spacing.Go for those if you really want to make of fun of my opinions when you don't agree with them.

I do not hate the anime.I said it's fine, nice even but it doesn't deserve the hype.It's not the Alpha and Omega of anime.The story while great is not mind blowing with originality or mystery.If you take a look from a "higher" angle or brake the story in it's base components you'll see it's actually derivative.A closed off society, monster outside town limits, enemy amongst us, young protagonist with "unknown" power, etc.The pattern in which all of these are arranged isn't original either.

Don't think it's angst, it's despair.They are not saying "omg,if we lose we're fked".They are saying "we're fked and now we're doing this to get unfked".
It doesn't seem like much of difference but it is.I can't explain it properly but I'll try.
With angst you hope your characters won't die.With despair you know they will and now you're just watching the slaughter and get surprised when a few manage to survive.Problem is you've already given up hope and given up on the characters.

I can name many and we both know it.
I'm not skipping through because I don't like words and just want to see punching.I'm skipped through because they talk so damn slow.They are talking alot without actually saying anything of importance.
Character development? Where the hell is that? Episode 1 characters are the same as episode 25 characters.Only development I can think of is that guy that decided to go with the scouts instead of guards and that was a decision based on experience and not a change of character.
Maybe I'm not seeing the subtle changes.I'll admit that I didn't care enough to analyze their interactions.Name the changes they experience.

And now it's a wall of text....
Still there's too little wall crawling for a Spidermen anime.

Insults? I stopped reading right after that. Mimishiki19, you literally suck comprehending things. <- This is my first insult to you since you have such weak layers of skin.

You are a waste of breath.

[Mimishiki19]

@mrdkreka

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I read the manga and I've got no idea what you're talking about.
I think I didn't properly explain.
The story of Attack on Titan I've read before.It was a town that was surrounded and (further in the story)frequently attacked by "evil" forces.The  protagonist was one of those devils/monsters/beasts but he didn't know it.The time period was the same( culture and technology).The people lived in that town for generations, not knowing who was attacking or why they were being attacked.
This story^ grates me because I know it's based on something else though I have no idea if it's a legend, myth, a Grimm Brother's story or what but I know it's deeply rooted in our culture as I've seen a few movies and read a few stories with the same premise.

Despair/angst thing.You can use angst many times but despair a maximum of 2.After that the subject is stale.It's not about category but storytelling.

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It's not about category but storytelling.
It's not about category but storytelling..
It's not about category but storytelling...
It's not about category but storytelling....
It's not about category but storytelling.....
It's not about category but storytelling......
It's not about category but storytelling.......
It's not about category but storytelling....... .

Did you read every single line?

School Rumble.Comedy.You watch it not for the story but for the gags.Top of my head since I've seen a thread about it when I got here.Many more.
Opposite side The Pet Girl of Sakurasou since I've watched it recently.You see episodes 1, 2, 3 and skip to 24.Why so much skipping? No progress storywise between those! 4-23 are just filler episodes.Remember naruto, bleach fillers? It's what the conversations in Attack of the Titan feel like to me.
I did not skip every conversation.Some were interesting and necessary.Most were not.

Yes Armin.I did say I didn't pay too much attention.Did he end up doing anything besides plans? He was the planning guy from the start.
You probably are right.

While it might be possible to make the gear would it be usable in any way? Why doesn't it exist now? I imagine mountain climbers and/or thrill seekers would use it.
What mechanism would they use to attach the wires to walls? How do they detach? How do you control the swing?
Not being a troll here.I'm actually pretty interested.

@takeshi

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Think it's a bigger fuck you to watch it for free than skipping a few scenes.
If I don't make the cake there's no point in eating it?

Titan attack!Everyone runs,dies and dies some more.It's chaotic, fast paced and btw let me tell about my feelings while we're having a few flashbacks.

@Taskin

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[Ozzaharwood]

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@mrdkreka

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I read the manga and I've got no idea what you're talking about.
I think I didn't properly explain.
The story of Attack on Titan I've read before.It was a town that was surrounded and (further in the story)frequently attacked by "evil" forces.The  protagonist was one of those devils/monsters/beasts but he didn't know it.The time period was the same( culture and technology).The people lived in that town for generations, not knowing who was attacking or why they were being attacked.
This story^ grates me because I know it's based on something else though I have no idea if it's a legend, myth, a Grimm Brother's story or what but I know it's deeply rooted in our culture as I've seen a few movies and read a few stories with the same premise.

Despair/angst thing.You can use angst many times but despair a maximum of 2.After that the subject is stale.It's not about category but storytelling.

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It's not about category but storytelling.
It's not about category but storytelling..
It's not about category but storytelling...
It's not about category but storytelling....
It's not about category but storytelling.....
It's not about category but storytelling......
It's not about category but storytelling.......
It's not about category but storytelling....... .

Did you read every single line?

School Rumble.Comedy.You watch it not for the story but for the gags.Top of my head since I've seen a thread about it when I got here.Many more.
Opposite side The Pet Girl of Sakurasou since I've watched it recently.You see episodes 1, 2, 3 and skip to 24.Why so much skipping? No progress storywise between those! 4-23 are just filler episodes.Remember naruto, bleach fillers? It's what the conversations in Attack of the Titan feel like to me.
I did not skip every conversation.Some were interesting and necessary.Most were not.

Yes Armin.I did say I didn't pay too much attention.Did he end up doing anything besides plans? He was the planning guy from the start.
You probably are right.

While it might be possible to make the gear would it be usable in any way? Why doesn't it exist now? I imagine mountain climbers and/or thrill seekers would use it.
What mechanism would they use to attach the wires to walls? How do they detach? How do you control the swing?
Not being a troll here.I'm actually pretty interested.

@takeshi

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Think it's a bigger fuck you to watch it for free than skipping a few scenes.
If I don't make the cake there's no point in eating it?

Titan attack!Everyone runs,dies and dies some more.It's chaotic, fast paced and btw let me tell about my feelings while we're having a few flashbacks.

@Taskin

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I don't get how you can criticize a series you just skipped through. The majority of the things you are saying don't make any sense, probably because you haven't watched the anime all the way through. Every little bit of "filler" in SnK is relevant to the story. I agree they probably could have made things a little bit faster paced, but just because it's not super fast paced doesn't mean it's bad, nor does that mean you should skip through the slower paced scenes then proceed to criticize the series for not making sense or being bad because you missed out on some of the most important information to the story.

Think of yourself as an expert critic for a movie. If you are going to criticize the movie and say in your review that you "skipped through" the boring scenes, everyone who has seen the movie and enjoyed it will obviously think you are a retard. It only makes sense, because to be able to properly critique you need to be seeing the whole picture, not just half of it.

[Mimishiki19]

I wonder why everyone insists I hate the anime or that I somehow skipped entire episodes.
"OMG,she skipped the flashback from episode 5 that was about something that happened in episode 2! OFF WITH HER HEAD!"

Also you are not allowed to say this anime is any good since it isn't finished and therefore you haven't watched it in it's entirety .

[mrdkreka]

This story^ grates me because I know it's based on something else though I have no idea if it's a legend, myth, a Grimm Brother's story or what but I know it's deeply rooted in our culture as I've seen a few movies and read a few stories with the same premise.

http://www.ipl.org/div/farq/plotFARQ.html

Despair/angst thing.You can use angst many times but despair a maximum of 2.After that the subject is stale.It's not about category but storytelling.

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It's not about category but storytelling.
It's not about category but storytelling..
It's not about category but storytelling...
It's not about category but storytelling....
It's not about category but storytelling.....
It's not about category but storytelling......
It's not about category but storytelling.......
It's not about category but storytelling....... .

Did you read every single line?

Wow you really gonna act like a dick, fine, then I have zero interest in continuing this so called discussion.

While it might be possible to make the gear would it be usable in any way? Why doesn't it exist now? I imagine mountain climbers and/or thrill seekers would use it.
What mechanism would they use to attach the wires to walls? How do they detach? How do you control the swing?
Not being a troll here.I'm actually pretty interested.

To take the high ground, I will explain it very briefly.
- It wont have much use, just like normal progression in technology it happens when humans gets desperate like in war and they need a solution that might be a bit messy.
- Why would anyone make this? It is extremely dangerous to use, and require years of training to use somewhat safely.
- remember they can't use it for a very long time since it use a lot of gas, the anime/manga doesn't mention how long on tank last, but I doubt it will be enough for mounting climbing. Then are also the problem with temperature, and the fact that you will need a lot of modification for it to be usable in the cold of the mountain. Short answer it would be terrible for mounting climbing.
- there exist quite a few ways to do this, you can do a google search and find quite a lot of different ways it can be done, however this is probably the biggest challenge for making it in IRL.
- same as above, and depends on the attach mechanism.
- This is mention in the anime, but to sum it up, it is the way you move your body and your position you are in. If I had to make it I would make some difference using more modern technology, since this is also one of the reason it has so hard to use.

[Mimishiki19]

oh cmon how am I being a dick?
It's called diminishing returns.
Calling me a dick is such a dick move.If you're gonna end the discussion like that don't forget your toys on the way out Cartman.

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Also you are not allowed to say this anime is any good since it isn't finished and therefore you haven't watched it in it's entirety .

No.

[mrdkreka]

oh cmon how am I being a dick?
It's called diminishing returns.
Calling me a dick is such a dick move.If you're gonna end the discussion like that don't forget your toys on the way out Cartman.

What discussion?

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you are kidding me right
you are kidding me right !!
you are kidding me right !!!!
you are kidding me right!!!!!
you are kidding me right!!!!!!!
you are kidding me right!!!!!!!!!
you are kidding me right!!!!!!!!!!!

You didn't even answer any of my question fully, and it is pointless to even try to "discuss", when you haven't even seen all of it 
And no I'm not calling you a dick I'm saying you act like a dick, but I guess you will prefer arrogant prick. 

[newy]

All right.

I could care less about this show, I don't watch it. Nor do I care about what the others think of it or you. But I'm going to address you, mimi-something. You have been sticking out in other threads as well. I recommend you to stop watching anime altogether as it seems you dislike every and any anime. Better go back to what you did before. But if you insist on hanging around anime then either have a civilized discussion and learn to live with criticism and counter arguments or don't comment at all, simply watch it, dislike it and start a ranting blog.

Don't make me return to this thread.

[Mimishiki19]

"He's going to die!". It's shocking, interesting and etc the first time.
Less the second time but they put the characters in this type of situations so many times that it has lost it's value.
In the first episode so many people died.Tragic.People kept dying as the show progressed and by episode 25 when they are stepping on those people you just don't care anymore.Diminishing returns!
Do you understand now what I was trying to say or are were you disagreeing with me? I can't tell from your replies.

If you are saying "Don't review the anime if you haven't seen it" then I will reply that you haven't seen it either.The story is not finished.
At this point you'll say you've seen season 1 and that which you have seen is "great" .Then I will reply I've seen most of season 1 and that which I've seen is "nice" but it has flaws that ruin the enjoyment.

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What's the difference between saying someone is acting like a dick and saying someone is a dick? I honestly can't imagine how you assumed I would think there is one.I suppose I shouldn't have been offended either.
And yes I would prefer arrogant prick.

For all these bros in the house just for God's sake notice I never said the anime was bad.I never said I hated it and it's not a crime to dislike certain parts of it.These threads aren't made for praise only but some of you take personal offense to my dislikes.

Spare me the condescending talk.You start a personal attack I respond in kind.It was never the other way around.Tetsukin said my review sucked.I said his sucked.Maybe I should've just written /facepalm and left it at that.
He called me a dick, I did the same thing.

[Tatsujin]

I went back today to read the manga about Ymir and Krista. It's one of my favorite parts so far. For whatever reason I just love their relationship and how it is developing.

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Ymir pisses me off.

Krista's an average character. Not much development so far.

[Ozzaharwood]

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"He's going to die!". It's shocking, interesting and etc the first time.
Less the second time but they put the characters in this type of situations so many times that it has lost it's value.
In the first episode so many people died.Tragic.People kept dying as the show progressed and by episode 25 when they are stepping on those people you just don't care anymore.Diminishing returns!
Do you understand now what I was trying to say or are were you disagreeing with me? I can't tell from your replies.

If you are saying "Don't review the anime if you haven't seen it" then I will reply that you haven't seen it either.The story is not finished.
At this point you'll say you've seen season 1 and that which you have seen is "great" .Then I will reply I've seen most of season 1 and that which I've seen is "nice" but it has flaws that ruin the enjoyment.

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What's the difference between saying someone is acting like a dick and saying someone is a dick? I honestly can't imagine how you assumed I would think there is one.I suppose I shouldn't have been offended either.
And yes I would prefer arrogant prick.

For all these bros in the house just for God's sake notice I never said the anime was bad.I never said I hated it and it's not a crime to dislike certain parts of it.These threads aren't made for praise only but some of you take personal offense to my dislikes.

Spare me the condescending talk.You start a personal attack I respond in kind.It was never the other way around.Tetsukin said my review sucked.I said his sucked.Maybe I should've just written /facepalm and left it at that.
He called me a dick, I did the same thing.

If you made an actual logical argument as to why you didn't like it I'm sure no one would have any problems. If you can't see why people are getting angry at you, go back through the thread and read every single one of your posts and the replies to your posts. If you can't figure out why people are arguing with you then; then there is nothing I can do for you. You'd better be careful now, Newy is on your butt.

I went back today to read the manga about Ymir and Krista. It's one of my favorite parts so far. For whatever reason I just love their relationship and how it is developing.

Haha, yeah. It's the source of a tonne of fanart as well.

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Ymir pisses me off.

Krista's an average character. Not much development so far.

Have you read the manga? They progress their characters quite nicely in it. I'd even say that their relationship was on par with Misaka's and Eren's.

[Xycolian2332]

Have you read the manga? They progress their characters quite nicely in it. I'd even say that their relationship was on par with Misaka's and Eren's.

Yes I have,

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and outside of her being the princess of that wall cult or whatever, there's nothing very interesting about her. She's a pretty boring character so far imo

[Janethan23]

http://youtu.be/wqktM8leKi4

I didn't notice there was a thread about the series.
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