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« Reply #20 on: December 20, 2012, 01:48:51 AM »
Urgh Perfect Viewer is totally not perfect. I really really dislike how you can't make it automatically fit the image to your screen if the images change size. Was reading NHK and some images are taller some are wider, etc. and so I basically had to tap the top left and right corners for every page to make sure it scaled properly.

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« Reply #21 on: December 20, 2012, 11:31:19 PM »
if you set the scaling to fit to screen it should maximize it automatically.

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« Reply #22 on: December 21, 2012, 04:38:55 AM »
can e-paper kindle even read img files? do they convert colored imgs into monochrome? makes me kinda interested since those kindles aren't exactly expensive either.

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« Reply #23 on: December 21, 2012, 06:25:55 AM »
E-ink is currently only able to handle grayscale (or was it just straight black-and-white?) due to the implementation of its technology. Therefore, the ability to handle images is not very useful, which would lead me to heavily doubt that the Kindle could display images.

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« Reply #24 on: December 21, 2012, 07:53:43 AM »
Welp, you're wrong. My e-ink kindle displays manga fine, and whenever there's a colour image it just shows it greyscale.

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« Reply #25 on: December 21, 2012, 11:11:41 AM »


mangas were meant to be read in gray-scale anyway, heh with that 1month battery life and its $90 price-tag on the no-ads kindle its kinda a nice option to pick.

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Re: Manga on ebook readers? (2012 models)
« Reply #26 on: December 21, 2012, 11:41:59 AM »
Urgh Perfect Viewer is totally not perfect. I really really dislike how you can't make it automatically fit the image to your screen if the images change size. Was reading NHK and some images are taller some are wider, etc. and so I basically had to tap the top left and right corners for every page to make sure it scaled properly.

If you want a perfect viewer for manga and anything Japanese I'd suggest iBunkoHD. It can only read PDF, zipped images(manga), zipped txt(for japanese novel) but it really is good. You can download light novel from aozora books, etc.. If you can read japanese. As far as I know you don't have to worry about image size at all, not even image aspect ratio. Anyway just check it out, it's eye candy.

it's for iPad though.

http://ipn.sakura.ne.jp/ibunkohd/gallery.html
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Re: Manga on ebook readers? (2012 models)
« Reply #27 on: December 21, 2012, 12:05:40 PM »
Urgh Perfect Viewer is totally not perfect. I really really dislike how you can't make it automatically fit the image to your screen if the images change size. Was reading NHK and some images are taller some are wider, etc. and so I basically had to tap the top left and right corners for every page to make sure it scaled properly.
turn those two into area for changing page, and set in setting "fit to screen" that will solve the problem, and actually make it a great app for manga reading

Here is what I do, and did
I had an iPad 2 for reading manga, but it was a horrible experience there aren't any good manga reading app for iOS, mangaStorm is you best bet, but even that one have a terrible UI. So I sold my Ipad bought a nexus 7, which lead me to this setup.

Mango - I use this for any ongoing manga, this is imo the best manga reading app on any platform. There is however one problem with it and that is missing support for reading archive files(zip rar 7z), which lead me to need one more manga app, which is perfect viewer.

Perfect viewer - it is quite a nice app, but it is far to complicated compared to mango. It has stuff like fit to width and fit to height, which are completely useless functions, since you want to use the setting "fit to screen", so you get to see the whole picture without scrolling. However when you have changed that area to just moving to the next page, it is actually a great app for reading manga, you get from places like bakabt.

Using e-ink for reading manga is a much better experience for your eyes, and if you use something like mangle it is quite easy to make it work perfectly(and it will flip all those 2side pages), however there are some problem. 1 it is a lot of trouble to manage you manga on your kindle, since it don't have much space, and you don't have automatic sync for it, so you need to move them over manually. The other problem I have is with the screen resolution, on the 4th generation kindle the text can be quite difficult to read when it is very small, this shouldn't be a problem with the paperwhite one since its higher PPI, but it is quite time consuming to get manga working on it. This has lead me to use tablet for reading even thought e-ink is much nicer to read on. Something like a nook with the google play on it would probably be the best solution, but nook have the same PPI as the 4th generation kindle, so there will be times where you can't read the text in manga without zooming. 

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he is using an android tablet, so that advise won't help at all
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Re: Manga on ebook readers? (2012 models)
« Reply #28 on: December 21, 2012, 12:28:02 PM »
@sawakosadako
he is using an android tablet, so that advise won't help at all

Woops, missed the nexus 7 :)
Anyway for those of you who's looking for a good archive reader, this one is perfect.
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Re: Manga on ebook readers? (2012 models)
« Reply #29 on: December 21, 2012, 03:22:52 PM »
Current gen E-ink can handle colour. Not the kindle's thought. Most colour e-ink devices are said to be pushed out in mass production from the next year.

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« Reply #30 on: December 21, 2012, 07:55:01 PM »
turn those two into area for changing page, and set in setting "fit to screen" that will solve the problem, and actually make it a great app for manga reading
After playing around in settings, that does indeed work. I can't seem to remap the open menu area. Is that normal? :x

If you want a perfect viewer for manga and anything Japanese I'd suggest iBunkoHD. It can only read PDF, zipped images(manga), zipped txt(for japanese novel) but it really is good. You can download light novel from aozora books, etc.. If you can read japanese. As far as I know you don't have to worry about image size at all, not even image aspect ratio. Anyway just check it out, it's eye candy.

it's for iPad though.

http://ipn.sakura.ne.jp/ibunkohd/gallery.html
Damn that looks really good. I wish that existed for Android :(

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Re: Manga on ebook readers? (2012 models)
« Reply #31 on: December 21, 2012, 08:58:21 PM »
turn those two into area for changing page, and set in setting "fit to screen" that will solve the problem, and actually make it a great app for manga reading
After playing around in settings, that does indeed work. I can't seem to remap the open menu area. Is that normal? :x
I haven't had any trouble changing the touch area, which one is it that are giving you trouble? If it is the one for the main menu in the middle I would take a guess and say they did it to prevent people from removing the menu button so the app doesn't become useless. Maybe they changed it in the beta.

You can also read your own manga with mango, you just need to extract the archives so it can read the pictures.
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Re: Manga on ebook readers? (2012 models)
« Reply #32 on: December 22, 2012, 12:16:10 AM »
Google just kicked Mango off the Play Store again lol.

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« Reply #33 on: December 22, 2012, 07:38:04 AM »
Welp, you're wrong. My e-ink kindle displays manga fine, and whenever there's a colour image it just shows it greyscale.

Interesting. I stand corrected.

Current gen E-ink can handle colour. Not the kindle's thought. Most colour e-ink devices are said to be pushed out in mass production from the next year.

That must be a new thing. Though, "new" would be "within the last year" because the only time I ever heard about e-ink was in a course I took about a year ago.

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Re: Manga on ebook readers? (2012 models)
« Reply #34 on: December 22, 2012, 06:08:44 PM »
Just get a Nexus 7. Not only can you use it for other things but it offers you the freedom to use pretty much whatever file format you want and the ability to use different apps instead of being restricted to what the manufacturer gives you. They are dead cheap too.

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« Reply #35 on: December 22, 2012, 08:43:00 PM »
^ im more interested in galaxy note than nexus 7, well thats me.

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Re: Manga on ebook readers? (2012 models)
« Reply #36 on: December 22, 2012, 09:48:52 PM »
Just get a Nexus 7. Not only can you use it for other things but it offers you the freedom to use pretty much whatever file format you want and the ability to use different apps instead of being restricted to what the manufacturer gives you. They are dead cheap too.
If you can wait a couple of months, they are apparently going to get even cheaper ($99).

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Re: Manga on ebook readers? (2012 models)
« Reply #37 on: December 23, 2012, 07:16:07 AM »
its kinda funny how the price these on my country.

galaxy note - $600
nexus 7 (no sim) - $350
nexus 4 - $610

notes: its in US dollar, roughly it's equal amount.


edit: speaking of supported formats on kindle, kindle paperwhite supports these.
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Content Formats Supported - Kindle Format 8 (AZW3), Kindle (AZW), TXT, PDF, unprotected MOBI, PRC natively; HTML, DOC, DOCX, JPEG, GIF, PNG, BMP through conversion
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Re: Manga on ebook readers? (2012 models)
« Reply #38 on: December 23, 2012, 10:19:46 AM »
If you want a perfect viewer for manga and anything Japanese I'd suggest iBunkoHD. It can only read PDF, zipped images(manga), zipped txt(for japanese novel) but it really is good. You can download light novel from aozora books, etc.. If you can read japanese. As far as I know you don't have to worry about image size at all, not even image aspect ratio. Anyway just check it out, it's eye candy.

it's for iPad though.

http://ipn.sakura.ne.jp/ibunkohd/gallery.html
Damn that looks really good. I wish that existed for Android :(

Just checked google play. Found the Android version.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.access_company.android.ibunko&feature=related_apps
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Re: Manga on ebook readers? (2012 models)
« Reply #39 on: December 24, 2012, 12:22:58 AM »
Just checked google play. Found the Android version.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.access_company.android.ibunko&feature=related_apps
It's only installable in Japan, which is probably why it never showed up. Good catch though.

edit: turns out going here would've told me there was an android version lol. http://ipn.sakura.ne.jp/ibunko/
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