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Bob2004:
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--- Quote from: Bob2004 on December 19, 2012, 10:58:01 PM ---Normal games. It only applies to games running in full screen, and it only seems to apply to games which switch to full screen in a certain way. As far as I can tell, certain games take over the entire screen, and take over all input, but once they've done that, they try to access some service or some protected directory/file protected by Comodo, and it pops up a warning asking if I want to allow it (though I can't see this warning, because the game is in full screen, so everything is just black). Since it blocks the process in question from executing any further until I respond to the request, I can't get out of full screen, so I can't respond - which means everything just gets stuck until I do a hard reboot.
It's not a problem running games in a window, or when using the Comodo sandbox (though that can bring its own issues), so it's not a huge issue. Just an annoyance.
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How is it not a huge issue if it completely breaks several games which run in full screen?
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Because there's almost always a way around it. The most obvious being to simply reboot the PC, manually add the game to the list of trusted files, then just play it normally. All it does is force me to reboot my PC every now and then when I don't really want to.
Southrop:
--- Quote from: Bob2004 on December 19, 2012, 05:35:53 PM ---Anyway, yeah, you cannot really claim that Windows 8 is not buggy or unpolished, when we have here a perfect example of a bug introduced by Windows 8, and which is most definitely not present in Windows 7.
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But if you think about it, were these programs written specifically for Windows 8? No not really. In that case, wouldn't it be the creator's responsibility to ensure they worked on a certain operating system rather than assuming that if you write some code for one platform it works for all?
occasional:
--- Quote from: Bozobub on December 19, 2012, 04:37:19 PM ---Regarding Win8 being "smooth and polished": Not even close. Just to mention one thing, using the Metro interface (as well as many standard OS features) with a mouse, rather than touch panel, is just terrible.
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I don't understand why people keep bringing this up.
If you don't like Metro, don't use it.
I don't use it at all, aside from the search function. It's like having a snappier Windows 7.
I haven't had any problems with Windows 8. In fact, it's been much more stable than Windows 7 so far.
Bozobub:
--- Quote from: occasional on December 20, 2012, 12:09:50 PM ---
--- Quote from: Bozobub on December 19, 2012, 04:37:19 PM ---Regarding Win8 being "smooth and polished": Not even close. Just to mention one thing, using the Metro interface (as well as many standard OS features) with a mouse, rather than touch panel, is just terrible.
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I don't understand why people keep bringing this up.
If you don't like Metro, don't use it.
I don't use it at all, aside from the search function. It's like having a snappier Windows 7.
I haven't had any problems with Windows 8. In fact, it's been much more stable than Windows 7 so far.
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You didn't fully read my reply. Especially the part "using the Metro interface (as well as many standard OS features)", apparently.
Yes you can turn off Metro. No, you CANNOT disable the other horrible UI modifications, such as being forced to hover your mouse in ill-defined areas. You can add utilities to undo some of Win8's most obvious ill-starred choices, but that doesn't excuse the bad initial design.
Win8's other issues are certainly resolvable; no Windows OS since '95 has been immune to the 1st batch of flubs and bugs, after all. But radically changing the interface in a GUI, especially in ways that increase workload, number of clicks, and time taken with the interface, is just about always bad. For a wonderful example of the problem in a different program, google "autocad ribbon (problem OR issue)".
Those few extra clicks and/or "hovers" Win8 tends to insert into any interaction with the OS add up significantly over time. This becomes a serious issue, when you're a professional who interacts with the OS constantly, both in time wasted and bad ergonomics. This is even more true if you buy a touch panel for your Win8 desktop; how long do you think you'll be able to pull 8-hour days, lifting your arms up and over to touch an LCD..? Not long, bub. You'll have a repetitive-stress injury in short order.
So, in other words, Win8 has additional time, stress, and retraining costs (for businesses) over Win7. Not wise.
occasional:
Not sure what you mean by turning off Metro. I just press the Win key after I've logged on and I'm in Desktop mode. No need to use any metro stuff save for searching.
What are these horrible UI modifications that you're talking about?
And what exactly are you trying to do that requires hovering your mouse over "ill-defined areas" that cannot be achieved using keyboard shortcuts?
Want to access the control panel? CTRL + X, click on control panel. Windows 7 = Win key, click control panel
Want to search? Win key + type, CTRL + X and click search, or open Explorer, same as Windows 7
Want to shut down? CTRL + ALT + DEL or ALT + F4, same as Windows 7
I practically never use any of the corners or do any hovering.
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