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Bozobub:
--- Quote from: occasional on December 21, 2012, 05:53:23 PM ---Every OS has its problems, and the reason behind Windows 8's slow adoption is that people are afraid of change, and/or too ignorant to realize that Windows 8 is not that different than Windows 7.
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Then why buy Win8? That, in fact, is probably the biggest the reason behind Win8's slow adoption: Lack of a compelling reason to do so. Why go through the relatively major inconvenience of installing and learning the foibles of a new OS, when Win7 is peaking as a mature OS right now?
Look, you keep making assertions, such as "the reason behind Windows 8's slow adoption is that people are afraid of change", but you're not backing them up. While I don't care to throw a zillion links at you — yes, I'm just too lazy — I HAVE given you several search strings that can bring up a good amount of info contradicting your position. Furthermore, you're not going to have a difficult time explaining how Google (and Notch, creator of minecraft, and many major software dev houses) are "afraid of change".
Just about the only major improvement is in boot times and recovery from hibernation, yet my system already only takes 40-45 seconds from POST to boot, and I generally simply leave it running (seeding torrents, in fact). Yet, they've added a host of problems right along with these incremental improvements, such as the very problem OP is having.
occasional:
--- Quote from: Bozobub on December 21, 2012, 07:26:38 PM ---Then why buy Win8?
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You don't "pay" for a Windows OS. It either comes with your computer of your pirate it. With Windows 8 it was especially easy, given that Microsoft is basically giving out free product keys.
--- Quote --- That, in fact, is probably the biggest the reason behind Win8's slow adoption: Lack of a compelling reason to do so. Why go through the relatively major inconvenience of installing and learning the foibles of a new OS, when Win7 is peaking as a mature OS right now?
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Major inconvenience? Oh, please. It took me 10 minutes to get comfortable with Windows 8, and maybe 30 to get fully accustomed to it.
As for the new features, how about better performance, higher stability, new backup and restore features, better Office 2013 performance, better Windows Explorer? Not to mention the live account integration.
There's not much in terms of new features, it's mostly under the hood and small enhancements, but it's still better than Windows 7.
--- Quote ---Look, you keep making assertions, such as "the reason behind Windows 8's slow adoption is that people are afraid of change", but you're not backing them up.
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90% of the Windows 8 criticism I've read is: "There's no Start Menu, I don't want to use Metro," or "Windows 8 is too hard to use." All of which are lazy BS reasons.
--- Quote --- While I don't care to throw a zillion links at you — yes, I'm just too lazy — I HAVE given you several search strings that can bring up a good amount of info contradicting your position. Furthermore, you're not going to have a difficult time explaining how Google (and Notch, creator of minecraft, and many major software dev houses) are "afraid of change".
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--- Quote ---“We have no plans to build out Windows apps. We are very careful about where we invest and will go where the users are but they are not on Windows Phone or Windows 8,” said Clay Bavor, the product management director of Google Apps.
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There's not enough Windows 8 users to justify the cost. That's why they're not developing dedicated Win 8 apps.
--- Quote ---Just about the only major improvement is in boot times and recovery from hibernation, yet my system already only takes 40-45 seconds from POST to boot, and I generally simply leave it running (seeding torrents, in fact). Yet, they've added a host of problems right along with these incremental improvements, such as the very problem OP is having.
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I can only say that I personally have seen a noticeable boost in performance (boot speed, shutdown speed, overall performance, multitasking) on both my laptop (2630QM, 4 GB RAM) and iMac (Core 2 Duo 3.06 GHz, 4 GB RAM), and no issues at all. In fact, I was having more issues with Windows 7.
I have no problem with people not deeming the upgrade to Windows 8 worth. But I disagree with the statement that it's not smooth and polished, or better than Win 7.
Bozobub:
Oy veh.
OK, in order:
- Quite a few people buy an OS separate from a new PC buy, and the numbers support me on this. I certainly did with Win7 x64 Ultimate. In fact, Win8 has terrible purchase numbers, outside of new PC installs (where the consumer often has no choice, or doesn't know to make a choice in the 1st place), relative to every other Windows version in the past, besides Vista.
- You apparently missed the "installing" part of "installing and learning". YOU may enjoy (re)installing Windows (whether as an upgrade or clean install), but most people do not, and it takes a significant amount of time.
As for new features, very few of them are particularly compelling, or could not have been released as a service pack for Win7. I also have never had WIn7 crash on me, except for cases involving a bad SATA cable on my boot drive; hardly the OS's fault.
- You simply have not done the searches I've recommended, and continue to state your assertions with little to no supporting evidence. That is NOT sufficient in any debate; anyone can simply stomp their foot and insist they're correct, you know.
In general, there are only small improvements in performance over Win7, and in fact Win8 scores *lower* for gaming. To quote you, "There's not much in terms of new features, it's mostly under the hood and small enhancements". That says "service pack" to me, not "buy a new OS".
- Google and the rest of the dev world starting building applications for Win7 almost immediately. You also did not see a single developer who simply refused to accommodate Win7 right from launch. Win8 has already been given the thumbs-down from a good number of developers, both large and small. Notch, for example, swears he will never develop anything for Win8, and Steam has started to develop for Linux, with Win8's problems as one of the explicit reasons.
I've used Win8, both RC and on several peoples' new PCs, and, in its current incarnation, Win8 is NOT yet "smooth and polished", although I imagine that will change eventually, as it has for every iteration of Windows so far; again, OP's problems with P2P are just one example. Furthermore, many, if not most, of the changes to the GUI (as well as the development process) seem to be particularly arbitrary.
Belmakar:
--- Quote from: Bozobub on December 21, 2012, 09:58:05 PM ---OP's problems with P2P are just one example.
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I might be wrong there, but isn't the OP's problem more about AVAST than the OS? I don't use AVAST (there are enough free alternatives, and a lot of them are at least as effective as AVAST) and have no problems whatsoever with µTorrent on Windows 8 (aside from µTorrent 3.x's usual annoyances).
Bugged software and software incompatibilities usually aren't the OS's fault, as long as we're not talking about a part of the OS itself.
Please return to topic, everyone (or just shut the fuck up). Your whole "which version of Windows is better" flamewar is 100% off topic.
Bob2004:
--- Quote from: Belmakar on December 22, 2012, 04:20:55 PM ---
--- Quote from: Bozobub on December 21, 2012, 09:58:05 PM ---OP's problems with P2P are just one example.
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I might be wrong there, but isn't the OP's problem more about AVAST than the OS? I don't use AVAST (there are enough free alternatives, and a lot of them are at least as effective as AVAST) and have no problems whatsoever with µTorrent on Windows 8 (aside from µTorrent 3.x's usual annoyances).
Bugged software and software incompatibilities usually aren't the OS's fault, as long as we're not talking about a part of the OS itself.
Please return to topic, everyone (or just shut the fuck up). Your whole "which version of Windows is better" flamewar is 100% off topic.
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Well, it's an incompatibility between Avast and Windows 8, that was introduced by Windows 8. Avast changed nothing, Microsoft did, so I'd argue that it's the OS' fault. But regardless of the reason, the only solution is to wait for either Microsoft to fix whatever issue they've created (yeah, right), or at least document the changes they've made (also extremely unlikely), or for Avast to be patched to fix it - which could take some time given it only impacts a small group of users, and only in a limited way, and they don't know what caused it so it could be difficult to debug.
Until one of those solutions is completed, the only temporary options are to live with the problem, revert back to Windows 7, or change to another antivirus (and I'd argue there aren't many, if any, free AVs that match up to Avast, whereas Windows 7 is arguably better than Windows 8 at the present time - hence my recommendation to revert to 7 if the OP can't live with the problem).
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