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Offline Svenskung

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Issues with seeding. 4.6 GB for this week, seeding 24/7.
« on: December 23, 2012, 07:20:54 AM »
Hi.

I have issues with seeding. I'd like to contribute as much as I can but it seems that I'm only uploading about 30 KB/sec for all the 29 torrents I have active and seeding.

My connection speed is quite good, which is 100 Mbit Download and 10 Mbit Upload. However, I am soon going to upgrade to 100/100 since network is very cheap in Sweden where I'm at now.

I've grabbed a few freeleech torrents and tried to grab a few bonus ones, however, the bonus ones seems impossible to download. My network should be able to seed at ~ 1 MB/sec and my download speed is usually 11.7 MB/sec. Also, I just grabbed another freeleech just now and it seems to be stuck at 1 MB download for some reason. EDIT: Nvm, it spiked up to 9 MB/sec now.

Are there any tips & tricks to make me able to contribute as much as possible. Since I've only seeded 4.6 GB for this week having it seeding 24/7. My ratio is currently 1.081. Total download: 512.05 GB. Total Upload: 553.32 GB.

Also, are there anything I can do for you guys regarding the website? I'm a PHP coder as of now and stepping up towards C++ now in January 2013.

And yes, I have read the FAQ.

Thanks in advance.

Best Regards,
Sven.
« Last Edit: December 23, 2012, 07:59:08 AM by Svenskung »

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Re: Issues with seeding. 4.6 GB for this week, seeding 24/7.
« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2012, 09:14:14 AM »
If you allow to see the stats in your tracker profile, maybe I can answer your question  ???

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Re: Issues with seeding. 4.6 GB for this week, seeding 24/7.
« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2012, 09:48:10 AM »
If you allow to see the stats in your tracker profile, maybe I can answer your question  ???

Done.

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Re: Issues with seeding. 4.6 GB for this week, seeding 24/7.
« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2012, 01:24:54 PM »
Every torrent you are seeding is overseeded....apart from the Naruto Shippuden one. If you want to try seed a lot, my tip would be ignore anything with over 100 seeds.

Am seeding 355 torrents, and only 4 of them are over 100 seeds. Seeding loads of hentai works good as well, gets tons of hit and runs.

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Re: Issues with seeding. 4.6 GB for this week, seeding 24/7.
« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2012, 05:19:51 PM »
While I'm sure you've heard most of these, here's some general tips:
- Seed as many individual torrents as possible.  This increases the odds one or more will actually be active at any given time.  Currently I have 115 seeding on BakaBT, and my upload pipe stays maxed most of the time.
- If using a decent client (for example, Vuze, qBittorrent, uTorrent), increase both your maximum total connections AND max connections per torrent to the same number; also make sure "Use more upload slots if upload speed is < 90%" (uTorrent's phrasing, other clients will vary) is enabled, as well.  Don't worry, this will NOT cause one torrent to choke off all of the others!  Instead, if few torrents are actually active, they can use many more of the available connections.

Most relatively modern PCs will have no problems at all running 500-1000 total connections at once, but you CAN start to chug your system if you overdo it.  Just keep an eye out, it'll be obvious if it happens.  Currently, on a Core2Quad at 3.0 GHz, I can run at least 1000 connections without noticeable framerate hits when gaming at the same time.
- Try to especially target torrents for download that have just been released and are still in their non-Power-User "blackout" period.  This almost guarantees a decent positive ratio boost.
- Sort the torrent pool by leechers, and download those that have the most =) .

Make sure, BTW, that you cap uploads at 80-85% of your actual maximum capacity, at least as long as you're downloading anything or using the internet for anything else.  If you max your actual upload capacity, your DOWNloads will suffer a great deal, as well as general net activity; this is a limitation of TCP/IP.

Hope at least some of that helps!  Good luck.

Edit --> Frankly, I have a ratio of 2.087 currently (4199.25 GB up, 2012 GB down) without actively trying to select any torrents for upload "suitability".  I mainly just plain keep as many seeding as I can for as long as possible, while allowing many connections ^^' .
« Last Edit: December 23, 2012, 05:24:21 PM by Bozobub »

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Re: Issues with seeding. 4.6 GB for this week, seeding 24/7.
« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2012, 10:06:16 PM »
Make sure, BTW, that you cap uploads at 80-85% of your actual maximum capacity, at least as long as you're downloading anything or using the internet for anything else.  If you max your actual upload capacity, your DOWNloads will suffer a great deal, as well as general net activity; this is a limitation of TCP/IP.
I don't think s/he'll have any problem with that, what with getting 100 up soon :P

Personally, I've just done what everyone else here says, to seed about every torrent I've ever downloaded at a tracker where I care about the ratio, and my connection (10) is maxed 24/7.

...oh, and AceD is right, hentai is very popular for some reason :P
« Last Edit: December 23, 2012, 10:07:47 PM by buchno »

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Re: Issues with seeding. 4.6 GB for this week, seeding 24/7.
« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2012, 11:05:05 PM »
Thank you all for your suggestions and tips!

I'm using uTorrent 3.2.1 and right now I'm seeding at 100 kBps.

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Most relatively modern PCs will have no problems at all running 500-1000 total connections at once, but you CAN start to chug your system if you overdo it.  Just keep an eye out, it'll be obvious if it happens.  Currently, on a Core2Quad at 3.0 GHz, I can run at least 1000 connections without noticeable framerate hits when gaming at the same time.

I got a Intel Core i7-2600K overclocked to 4.00 Ghz so maybe that's able to keep up with a few connections. In the uTorrent settings page, what do you recommend setting my "Number of Connections" to? I currently have this:
Global maximum number of connections: 2000 (Pretty much just entered that to increase the amount of connections)
Maximum number of connection peers per torrent: 100
Number of uploads slots per torrent: 4
Use additional upload slots if upload speed is < 90%: YES.
What does each one of these do? I've tried looking through uTorrents FAQ page but couldn't find anything.

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Every torrent you are seeding is overseeded....apart from the Naruto Shippuden one. If you want to try seed a lot, my tip would be ignore anything with over 100 seeds.

Am seeding 355 torrents, and only 4 of them are over 100 seeds. Seeding loads of hentai works good as well, gets tons of hit and runs.

I've got a really slow 2 TB HDD which I bought on sale for about two years ago, and currently 1.12 TB has been used. I'm not sure if I can squeeze in around 300 torrents on that drive. I got loads of normal movies on it. 446 GB to be honest. And the anime folder on it is around 400 GB. For a few months ago I was quite stupid that I downloaded the anime, seeded while watching, and then when I was done watching I just removed the files from my HDD. I got some of them still there though.

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I don't think s/he'll have any problem with that, what with getting 100 up soon :P

Yeah, I'm getting 100 up as soon as possible. Right now, I got a few other stuffs on my mind. Christmas and stuff after all. Oh, btw, I'm a he.

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Re: Issues with seeding. 4.6 GB for this week, seeding 24/7.
« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2012, 11:45:29 PM »
Some people don't agree with me, so take it with a grain (or shakerful) of salt, but I'd set the max number of connections per torrent exactly the same as your global max.  As you will see if you try it, this does *not* mean that one torrent will grab all the connections, at the expense of any other active ones.  Rather, if only one or a small number of torrent(s) is active, then that small pool of torrents can still use a lot of connections.  You may also want to set the number of upload slots per torrent to 5.

Your settings, however, are fine as they are, if you don't want to fuss with 'em, but I also advise turning off EVERYTHING that has to do with "uTP", if you haven't already.

- "Global maximum number of connections" is the total number of connections your client, itself, can have open at any one time.  Each open connection uses a certain small amount of CPU and RAM overhead, so don't go crazy! ^^'
- "Maximum number of connected peers per torrent" is the number of connections a single torrent can have open.  This is a little misleading, as "peers" = "seeds" + "leechers" (also called "peers") here.
- "Number of uploads slots per torrent" is the number of peers (leechers) that can be downloading from you at any given time.  Your client will rotate through the swarm's peerlist, and will also give priority to peers who are also uploading to you, tit-for-tat.  This is NOT the same as the number of connected peers per torrent!  Your client doesn't disconnect from peers, it just starts uploading to the next one.
- "Use additional upload slots if upload speed is < 90%" is pretty much exactly what it sounds like.  If your current upload speed is less than 90% of your upload speed cap, your client will allow more peers to download from you per torrent, in an effort to bring up speeds.
« Last Edit: December 23, 2012, 11:47:25 PM by Bozobub »

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Re: Issues with seeding. 4.6 GB for this week, seeding 24/7.
« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2012, 11:56:55 PM »
Some people don't agree with me, so take it with a grain (or shakerful) of salt, but I'd set the max number of connections per torrent exactly the same as your global max.  As you will see if you try it, this does *not* mean that one torrent will grab all the connections, at the expense of any other active ones.  Rather, if only one or a small number of torrent(s) is active, then that small pool of torrents can still use a lot of connections.  You may also want to set the number of upload slots per torrent to 5.

Your settings, however, are fine as they are, if you don't want to fuss with 'em, but I also advise turning off EVERYTHING that has to do with "uTP", if you haven't already.

- "Global maximum number of connections" is the total number of connections your client, itself, can have open at any one time.  Each open connection uses a certain small amount of CPU and RAM overhead, so don't go crazy! ^^'
- "Maximum number of connected peers per torrent" is the number of connections a single torrent can have open.  This is a little misleading, as "peers" = "seeds" + "leechers" (also called "peers") here.
- "Number of uploads slots per torrent" is the number of peers (leechers) that can be downloading from you at any given time.  Your client will rotate through the swarm's peerlist, and will also give priority to peers who are also uploading to you, tit-for-tat.  This is NOT the same as the number of connected peers per torrent!  Your client doesn't disconnect from peers, it just starts uploading to the next one.
- "Use additional upload slots if upload speed is < 90%" is pretty much exactly what it sounds like.  If your current upload speed is less than 90% of your upload speed cap, your client will allow more peers to download from you per torrent, in an effort to bring up speeds.

Thank you Bozo! This has helped out alot.

I found one setting regarding uTP in the settings tab, which were: "Apply rate limit to uTP connections" which is now disables, was enabled. Are there any other setting regarding uTP in uTorrent's settings tab?
Seems like my upload speed now lies between 200-300 kbps which is alright I guess. But I'm gonna try look for more torrents to seed towards.

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Re: Issues with seeding. 4.6 GB for this week, seeding 24/7.
« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2013, 05:04:04 AM »
You want to go for torrents with a low seeder to high leecher ratio, cause it means a lot of people are trying to download. Beyond that, you can try jumping on new torrents as you see them come up here: http://bakabt.me/browse.php

That Mobile Suit Gundam one for instance, 0 / 1 / 22 is exactly the type of numbers you want to be seeing. It's pretty small though and you'd probably have to get it somewhere else to get anywhere since I bet the initial seeder is just really slow. You could still try it though I guess.