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Adopting Russian Children
« on: December 28, 2012, 05:18:53 PM »
I really don't know how to feel about this move by Putin. Basically, the Russian government has decided that their people need to take care of their own and have banned US families from adopting Russian children. On the one hand, I agree with the "keep Russians in Russia" sentiment and the fact that it will push Americans to try and adopt American children first. On the other, what good does it really do? I mean, really?

From all I've read, Russian families looking to adopt already had the first pick, so American families got the leftovers, so to speak. Many of the adopted kids going to the US have special needs - a reason they weren't picked by Russian families. From the outside looking in, it really does appear to be a political move and I really hate it when children are forced into politics.

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http://news.yahoo.com/putin-signs-anti-us-adoptions-bill-100228125.html


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Re: Adopting Russian Children
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2012, 05:47:55 PM »
That's nationalism for you.

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Re: Adopting Russian Children
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2012, 06:07:30 PM »
Several adopted children from Russia were beaten to death by their American families and later found not guilty by American court.

Can you really blame the Russians?

I don't know for sure, but I guess that sentiment in Russia is "they abuse our children because they think they will get away with since they are from Russia".

Another point is that this law was signed right after US approved their own law where they can more easily freeze bank assets of any Russian citizen in US banks.
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Re: Adopting Russian Children
« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2012, 06:36:20 PM »
Several adopted children from Russia were beaten to death by their American families and later found not guilty by American court.

Can you really blame the Russians?

I don't know for sure, but I guess that sentiment in Russia is "they abuse our children because they think they will get away with since they are from Russia".

Another point is that this law was signed right after US approved their own law where they can more easily freeze bank assets of any Russian citizen in US banks.

Ah, I was unaware of these. I'll have to look into it.


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Re: Adopting Russian Children
« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2012, 07:24:16 PM »
Why would an American want to adopt a Russian child? There are better ways to smuggle vodka.

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Re: Adopting Russian Children
« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2012, 07:57:52 PM »
I wonder about it as well. There are plenty of American homeless children to adopt. Helping people in other countries is fine, but I think own countrymen should receive your help first.
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Re: Adopting Russian Children
« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2012, 08:24:10 PM »
^But those are americans. Everybody knows americans are fat, ugly and probably armed. Would you like a fat, ugly and probably armed child which might shoot you as soon as you deny access to yet another litre of ice cream?

(That's not my opinion, it's the opinion I think americans might have about american children. Your average american citizen believes enough crazy shit to not make what I stated above look totally ridiculous, while it might still be slightly exaggerated regardless)

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Re: Adopting Russian Children
« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2012, 08:27:57 PM »
Wouldn't those Americans think that all Russian children drink vodka from early age and are communists at heart?
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Re: Adopting Russian Children
« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2012, 10:26:47 PM »
Um, they might think that the Russian kids only want Green cards, and then they are outta there.
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Re: Adopting Russian Children
« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2012, 08:02:54 PM »
People who don't think don't usually adopt, they breed.

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Re: Adopting Russian Children
« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2013, 12:39:52 PM »
Why would an American want to adopt a Russian child? There are better ways to smuggle vodka.

The standards for adopting an American child are very, very high. It's easier to spend the extra money and import one. Russians are white, so families that don't want that awkward conversation to take place lean toward Russians.


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Re: Adopting Russian Children
« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2013, 03:35:40 PM »
I really don't know how to feel about this move by Putin. Basically, the Russian government has decided that their people need to take care of their own and have banned US families from adopting Russian children. On the one hand, I agree with the "keep Russians in Russia" sentiment and the fact that it will push Americans to try and adopt American children first. On the other, what good does it really do? I mean, really?

From all I've read, Russian families looking to adopt already had the first pick, so American families got the leftovers, so to speak. Many of the adopted kids going to the US have special needs - a reason they weren't picked by Russian families. From the outside looking in, it really does appear to be a political move and I really hate it when children are forced into politics.

Thoughts?

http://news.yahoo.com/putin-signs-anti-us-adoptions-bill-100228125.html
the reason americans dont adopt american children first is its way more expensive and takes a stupid long amount of time

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Re: Adopting Russian Children
« Reply #12 on: January 02, 2013, 06:02:02 PM »
Poor kids, I just hope they have a good life.
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Re: Adopting Russian Children
« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2013, 06:46:19 PM »
Poor kids, I just hope they have a good life.

Well, this kid that was sent back alone to Russia was lucky enough to be adopted. Some other victims weren't so lucky.
For one thing, Tiff is not on any level what I would call a typical American.  She's not what I would consider a typical person.  I don't know any other genius geneticist anime-fan martial artist marksman model-level beauties, do you?

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Re: Adopting Russian Children
« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2013, 12:21:55 AM »
Poor kids, I just hope they have a good life.
they wont, most orphans lives suck. period

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Re: Adopting Russian Children
« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2013, 12:06:31 PM »
Let's necro this thread.

Why? Because yet another Russian child died in Texas. This really does not surprise me at all. Abuse of foster children is a known issue worldwide and having a foreign child makes it even easier to get away with. What makes me wonder is why the ban does not stop the adoptions that are already in progress. I know that laws are not supposed to be retroactive, but still...
For one thing, Tiff is not on any level what I would call a typical American.  She's not what I would consider a typical person.  I don't know any other genius geneticist anime-fan martial artist marksman model-level beauties, do you?

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Re: Adopting Russian Children
« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2013, 10:26:30 PM »
What saddens me is that the bureaucrats who are in charge never seem to get it right. They take children away from good homes, and leave them in homes where they end up abused and or dead. I guess as long as the only qualifications to get their jobs are to either sleep with the hiring person, or to be able to pass a criminal background check, it's all good. Maybe there ought to be some kind of test to see if they can tell an abusive home from a good home.

We could learn a lot from the adoption agencies for pets. It seems to be harder to adopt a dog or cat than it is to adopt a child.

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