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« Reply #100 on: May 06, 2013, 08:48:02 AM »
Too much fanservice.

Although those girls in swimsuits really are delicious. I think it was worth it. Plus there is still a chance this is just going to be a slife of life series, but that would be a big troll on Urubochi's part.

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« Reply #101 on: May 06, 2013, 09:31:13 AM »
calm before the clusterfuck perhaps   ;D

... too calm


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« Reply #102 on: May 06, 2013, 11:54:16 PM »
I think it was about to get somewhere. Then time was up.

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« Reply #103 on: May 07, 2013, 03:05:35 AM »
I think he needs to be banging some girls and charging some money. . . apparently his body is on high demand ;D

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« Reply #104 on: May 07, 2013, 08:21:44 AM »
The only thing I'm still expecting to see is him getting melanoma.

Mr. melaninless faggot that lived in artificial light his whole life and is now stuck in the tropics on an endless sea.

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« Reply #105 on: May 08, 2013, 11:07:53 AM »
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« Reply #106 on: May 11, 2013, 08:23:19 PM »
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If the planet were over-run with pirates, everyone who isn't a pirate would have a quality of life so low that you'd have to wonder if it would even be worth it to live in a world like that. Someone needs to cull their numbers or the world would go to shit.

Exactly. How the fuck is there going to be any kind of fucking balance like they're talking about if there's essentially one party that's more powerful, and constantly preys upon the other one? That's not some kind of weird-ass relationship like they're talking about. They're essentially just slaves for the pirates to do whatever the fuck they want. Hell, I wonder how the hell they've even gotten by this long with how retarded their captain is! I mean I can't fathom how they were able to put up any resistance in the past with some idiot like that taking the helm!

RANT TIME!

I mean for one, they have a guy that's piloting a superweapon, but they're using him to SHINE A FUCKING LIGHT ONTO THE ENEMY! Okay, okay, maybe they don't want to leave the battling to him. Yeah, that's it... they're afraid of the consequences (though they should be afraid of the consequences of pissing off Ledo much more but hey whatever who cares right?). In that case, why are you using him to shine a light from a position that is roughly in front of your fleet??! If you're going to fucking use him as a means to light up the enemy while you stay shrouded, you should strike from a more advantageous position yourself, rather than such an obvious location as that; if the power source is the problem, just leave one small ship/submarine directly behind him to be the energy provider. Remain hidden while they sail at him, wasting their ammunition... try to get some diversionary fire going so they keep going at that location. Then, pop out from behind and start wrecking their shit.  Or better yet, set up mines while they're en-route to the location and then force some losses before you even start your battle. You can't tell me you don't have the technology when you're piloting mechs, which we don't even have right now (then again I suppose since they can't really fly any planes, there's been a jumble of what tech is and isn't available). You already know you're outgunned, so why are you still engaging this way? Even if you hit them for a 1-2 minutes without retaliation, you're still going to lose. Or better yet, you know this guy's on your side because he decided to not annihilate you... and you can communicate with him... so why not have him help out?


I mean the pirates essentially charged straight in, and they took a damn good amount of time to get there... and they knew the exact direction they were coming from, yet this is all they did? Seriously? Pretty much anything would have been better, and engaging them straight up would have yielded roughly the same result. I am now convinced that this author is desperately trying to make the captain of this vessel try to seem as incompetent as possible. I see him sitting around with this pensive look on his face like he's got some hidden knowledge or hidden plan all the time, but I'm convinced that he's just fucking drunk or something all the time. No, not just drunk... fucking retarded. Grant did a better job than him while drunk. All the captain is good for is existing and getting them into deeper shit.

I don't expect him to be like Farragut taking New Orleans, or any Alex Row, but dear god, stop it. If you're gonna leave a guy that retarded in charge of your naval battles (by "guy" I mean the author in this case...), just turn this into a pure slice of life anime and just stop fighting. I mean hell, you don't even really need an interesting plot these days, because people just essentially eat up any moe art styles, no matter what the content is, so it's not like you need anything else. You already have good character designs, so there's no point in trying to make this what it definitely isn't. Or hell, give up at putting any kind of tactical spin on this shit. Just turn it into some shounen shit where our main character is suddenly an angsty main protagonist piloting a Nirvash, and regularly gets emo-ups... which mind you I liked that show much more than this... hell it was my favorite at the time.

That's some of the major stuff. I could probably go on, but that's mainly what I wanted to cover before whatever disaster is presented in the next episode (literal or no). I'm just really annoyed because I thought the premise of this would lead to more than this goddamned mess. Which reminds me, I should finish watching this some time. I stopped somewhere midway..


And on a minor note, what kind of gay guys would go chasing a guy to a collapsing spiral staircase (almost killing him and themselves) just to prove that they're that fucking gay? If she wasn't there, we would have lost a main protagonist. Also, it was hilarious how the old lady was just like *gasp* "what do you intend to use this for?" I don't know, what the fuck do you think they intend to do with it? Just take a wild guess! ANY WILL DO. I am now simply continuing to watch this because it's entertaining in a different way... the sad way. Even if the author somehow actually turns this for the better, it's not going to be enough to erase what already happened...

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Re: Suisei no Gargantia | Gargantia on the Verdurous Planet
« Reply #107 on: May 12, 2013, 05:07:48 PM »
So Amy is a stripper... eh... bellydancer, whatever. At least I guess this kind of fanservice goes well with the lore, so good job on that. The other twist at the end didn't come as a surprise at all, I had a feeling that they were fighting space shrimps after all.
For one thing, Tiff is not on any level what I would call a typical American.  She's not what I would consider a typical person.  I don't know any other genius geneticist anime-fan martial artist marksman model-level beauties, do you?

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« Reply #108 on: May 12, 2013, 06:08:12 PM »
Finally some action is to come after 3 filler-fanservice-like episodes.

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« Reply #109 on: May 12, 2013, 07:28:55 PM »
Since it was in the description of this anime about him basically adapting to the life on Gargantia, I would say it's not the filler, but in fact a main plot broken up by some action episodes in between.
For one thing, Tiff is not on any level what I would call a typical American.  She's not what I would consider a typical person.  I don't know any other genius geneticist anime-fan martial artist marksman model-level beauties, do you?

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« Reply #110 on: May 12, 2013, 08:47:43 PM »
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Unable to tell reality from fiction wall of text rant


This whole wall of text screams "I can't tell fiction from reality". It's a freaking fiction anime ffs. It's not supposed to be real life and make sense. That's what gives it the "thing" to make it watchable.
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« Reply #111 on: May 12, 2013, 09:06:23 PM »
I agree with your point, there are worse cliches and tropes out there, but did you have to quote that entire wall of text? My expression was already somewhat similar to this when I saw the original rant.
For one thing, Tiff is not on any level what I would call a typical American.  She's not what I would consider a typical person.  I don't know any other genius geneticist anime-fan martial artist marksman model-level beauties, do you?

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« Reply #112 on: May 12, 2013, 09:22:09 PM »
I agree with your point, there are worse cliches and tropes out there, but did you have to quote that entire wall of text? My expression was already somewhat similar to this when I saw the original rant.

Lol nice pic. And no I shouldn't have copied it but I fixed it.
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« Reply #113 on: May 13, 2013, 03:58:28 AM »
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Unable to tell reality from fiction wall of text rant


This whole wall of text screams "I can't tell fiction from reality". It's a freaking fiction anime ffs. It's not supposed to be real life and make sense. That's what gives it the "thing" to make it watchable.

Thanks for quoting yourself for me. Anyway, what you're saying is silly. There is a difference between doing fiction and being horribly incompetent at what you are portraying. If you're doing tactical fights, it doesn't matter if it's fiction or not... it tears down my ability to take you seriously when you show a captain handling his fleet that badly.

Saying "it's fiction" as an excuse to any stupidity is like saying you have no standards for what you're watching at all. Which is fine if that's how you roll. Just don't try to drag me down the hill with you.

Anime is anime mostly because of where it comes from. Saying that nonsensical happenings are the norm, and give it its essential meaning...  Is a rather terrible insult to anime in general.

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« Reply #114 on: May 13, 2013, 04:38:43 AM »
Eh, it is and can be believable though. This is hundreds, possibly thousands of years in the future. I assume the people were never trained by Navy Seals in tactical naval warfare. They are just doing what they believe is right because that is the main thing the fleet believes in. They are idealists. They don't want to kill anyone. If you think that kind of thinking is dumb, or "non-tactical", that's your opinion. Don't bash others for thinking your opinion is superior to theirs, it just makes you look bad.

Anyway, on topic. More fanservice. I assume either the Hideauze are evolutions of the squid from Earth, or failed experiments from the past or something. It could just be the Hideauze look like the squid from Earth as well though. But a 99.97% chance is a little too much of a match to throw out the possibility the Hideauze are just evolutions of squid. I hope we get some answers soon.

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« Reply #115 on: May 13, 2013, 08:29:13 AM »
Anime with lots of fanservice.
Squids and octopuses as main enemies.

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« Reply #116 on: May 13, 2013, 11:18:31 AM »
Eh, it is and can be believable though. This is hundreds, possibly thousands of years in the future. I assume the people were never trained by Navy Seals in tactical naval warfare. They are just doing what they believe is right because that is the main thing the fleet believes in. They are idealists. They don't want to kill anyone. If you think that kind of thinking is dumb, or "non-tactical", that's your opinion.

Dude, if they didn't wanna kill anyone they wouldn't have been shelling them with heavy rounds. Granted their accuracy sucks, but still. Stop trying to turn everything into some emotionally charged debate regarding killing and morality. There were things they could have done to better prepare for the conflict that didn't involve any more lethal force than they displayed.

Also I'm not even talking hard tactics. This is just pure logic. You don't have to be trained in any way other than being able to use your brain. Like... Stop doing obviously stupid shit. Even if I disregard their captain's performance, that would still leave the opening episode to explain. What was essentially a war society was THAT bad at war. That tells me this author is just bad at this. There really isn't any excuse.

Also, I really can't disregard their captain's performance. I mean...  Why put him in charge if he has no mind for it? Then again I suppose it's believable, if simply because there were plenty of incompetent generals in any war.

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« Reply #117 on: May 13, 2013, 07:59:34 PM »
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Unable to tell reality from fiction wall of text rant


This whole wall of text screams "I can't tell fiction from reality". It's a freaking fiction anime ffs. It's not supposed to be real life and make sense. That's what gives it the "thing" to make it watchable.

Thanks for quoting yourself for me. Anyway, what you're saying is silly. There is a difference between doing fiction and being horribly incompetent at what you are portraying. If you're doing tactical fights, it doesn't matter if it's fiction or not... it tears down my ability to take you seriously when you show a captain handling his fleet that badly.

Saying "it's fiction" as an excuse to any stupidity is like saying you have no standards for what you're watching at all. Which is fine if that's how you roll. Just don't try to drag me down the hill with you.

Anime is anime mostly because of where it comes from. Saying that nonsensical happenings are the norm, and give it its essential meaning...  Is a rather terrible insult to anime in general.

See when I watch anime the part of my brain that tells me this is fiction kicks in. So when things happen that are odd or could never happen in real life, I get it. Also they explained why they didn't want him to kill all the pirates and why they were mad at him for it. But I guess you missed that part cus you were to busy thinking this was reality.

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Also if you watch Episode 3 you get the feeling that there isn't much bloodshed between the pirates and the others.
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It's even further explained not directly that they only use weapons as a way to threaten one another. Not actual bloodshed.

Now as for when the pirates retaliated and attacked, duh. Their crew was killed and blood was shed. It was even stated in Episode 3 on many occasions that the pirates would seek revenge. **see first spoiler tag for pic**

Fiction isn't always supposed to be believable and accurate. That's the part that makes it fiction. Funny you have an issue with a captain and crew not wanting to kill pirates cus in the real world that is absurd. But you're not ranting about the flying robot from outer space that can nuke a small army in seconds. Seems... absurd don't it?

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« Reply #118 on: May 13, 2013, 08:13:03 PM »
for crissakes guys, learn to turn off yer gaddamn brains. all of the sudden stuff gets way more enjoyable to watch, and you won't be losing yourselves on all the nitpicking.

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« Reply #119 on: May 13, 2013, 08:17:29 PM »
for crissakes guys, learn to turn off yer gaddamn brains. all of the sudden stuff gets way more enjoyable to watch, and you won't be losing yourselves on all the nitpicking.

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