Author Topic: Suisei no Gargantia | Gargantia on the Verdurous Planet [Series]  (Read 12046 times)

Offline jaybug

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Re: Suisei no Gargantia | Gargantia on the Verdurous Planet
« Reply #140 on: May 16, 2013, 01:34:30 AM »
? I am lost here.
a good ammount of things in this world are only truly enjoyable if you proceed to disengage critical thought and forget that cumbersome things like "physics" and "logic" exists.

so you stop nitpicking, you turn off your brain, and enjoy a fictional work purely for it's enjoyment face value.


and it works wonders.

I see. So that's what's being argued here.

No it isn't. It's altogether completely different! (I just thought I would get in on the act, lol)
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Re: Suisei no Gargantia | Gargantia on the Verdurous Planet
« Reply #141 on: May 16, 2013, 05:10:40 PM »
? I am lost here.
a good ammount of things in this world are only truly enjoyable if you proceed to disengage critical thought and forget that cumbersome things like "physics" and "logic" exists.

so you stop nitpicking, you turn off your brain, and enjoy a fictional work purely for it's enjoyment face value.


and it works wonders.

I see. So that's what's being argued here.

No it isn't. It's altogether completely different! (I just thought I would get in on the act, lol)
actually, I don't know what's happening in here, except for the big wall-o-text and the fact that people are arguing about the show not being "real" enough.



...or something like that, did I get it right?

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Re: Suisei no Gargantia | Gargantia on the Verdurous Planet
« Reply #142 on: May 16, 2013, 07:10:51 PM »
This show was really promising at first but now it's just kind of.... meh.

At least someone that agrees with me.

Lately I saw that they force drama into the MC's past story, also the slow-paced character development really hits the nail there, they don't go into deep character information they just focus on one basic main plot which lacks action, for the moment, but still, could have been a better start.

Also the ecchi and overly-almost-nude females are put there just to attract some of the older people, to watch the show, I believe it worked since It has soo many "THAT'S MY WAIFU" people on /a/ also in Japan, I thought this will be a good anime, serious, to the point, action packed, good characters but, as always, I am left disappointed because of Japan.

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« Reply #143 on: May 17, 2013, 01:35:41 AM »
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Lately I saw that they force drama into the MC's past story
The way that I see it, it's not really forcing drama, it's dual world building. The whole objective of the show is to illustrate the difference in mentalities between the two cultures.

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also the slow-paced character development really hits the nail there
A fish out of water story can only lead to the slow-pace as the character tries to find his place in his new world. Unless characters and plot devices are continually injected into MC's new world, then his way of life is essentially irrelevant. I draw comparisons to Maou-sama to illustrate this.

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They don't go into deep character information they just focus on one basic main plot which lacks action, for the moment, but still, could have been a better start.
Agreed. This is the same trap and Maou-sama is working to dig its way out of. I don't particularly mind the prioritization of character/world development over developing the MC's world. Either way would work as long as it's done well. I believe that what happens next episode will determine which road Gargantia is going to stick to.

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Also the ecchi and overly-almost-nude females are put there just to attract some of the older people, to watch the show
Remember that the character designs are by a hentai artist. It would be a waste if they didn't dabble in some ecchi and fanservice.

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I believe it worked since It has soo many "THAT'S MY WAIFU" people on /a/ also in Japan
That's every show, every season every time. Hardly anything new.

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I thought this will be a good anime, serious, to the point, action packed, good characters but, as always, I am left disappointed because of Japan.
As long as Mr. Murata keeps Urobuchi in check, then I'm all for the way the story has been laid out.


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Re: Suisei no Gargantia | Gargantia on the Verdurous Planet
« Reply #144 on: May 17, 2013, 01:38:39 AM »
Fishing = patience

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« Reply #145 on: May 18, 2013, 12:33:27 AM »
Say, do you think they will dive down and find Sponge Bob?

I dunno but I think logic has little to do with feeling disrespected and wanting revenge. Look up feud and vendetta. Are either of those logical?

That depends on the vantage point. For instance, in physics, if your frame of reference is the moving vehicle, your calculations will be quite different from the ones that are applied from an arbitrary, stationary point chosen as the origin.

"Revenge", "hatred", etc... these feelings at a personal level aren't logical. Prediction of their rise given circumstances such as personality can be a logical procedure.

Furthermore, much of this is irrelevant: It was not the captain that was under the effect of any of these feelings. Rather, he was on the receiving end, and was given plenty of time to take advantage of them.

? I am lost here.
a good ammount of things in this world are only truly enjoyable if you proceed to disengage critical thought and forget that cumbersome things like "physics" and "logic" exists.

so you stop nitpicking, you turn off your brain, and enjoy a fictional work purely for it's enjoyment face value.


and it works wonders.

I will put this in a spoiler since it isn't directly related to this anime.

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Most likely they survived because neither side wants a pyrrhic victory over other, a fragile balance that Ledo probably disrupted by his badass annihilation of the pirates... or at least that is how they presented the case. Then again every victory on either side will always be a pyrrhic one, since they will lose ships that are irreplaceable.

Taking that into a consideration who was indeed the stupid one here? Because the pirates were pressed to assault even after permanent losses. Because we are talking about losing your habitat, not just ships, so the doctrine "too valuable to lose" should be considered by both parties.

You have an interesting point. What's the point of even having violent pirates exist in a world where survival is purely on ships? It's not a very self-sustaining model. If you do kill people and take down their ships... they won't come back, so you have to move on to another fleet to harass, which you might not find on an ocean planet. And if you continue backing down at threat of violence, you won't do jack shit except waste time. Even if you dig up a defeated fleet's ships and patch them up, you're just thinning your own forces. I'm wondering how they even managed to amass a large fleet of people that were all just naturally thugs? Where did they get the ships from, other people? Okay, but then what about the population? I'm no history buff, so correct me if I'm wrong, but most people trend towards a stable society. Even raiders and such eventually evolve to some type of civilized culture simply because it's more advantageous in the long run.... so how is it that the most powerful force in the world is one that only has preying on others as its prime characteristic? Considering no further details of setting were disclosed, I'm going to go ahead and lean towards "plot device"... but whatever.

I still can't agree with their method of defense in the naval battle... but then again, considering they had "humanity's main base in space" left COMPLETELY UNGUARDED while they went on a HORRIBLY PLANNED MISSION with their ENTIRE FLEET to take out ONE CORE, I'm not really expecting much in the way of having things make sense from now on.

Cute, huh?

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Re: Suisei no Gargantia | Gargantia on the Verdurous Planet
« Reply #146 on: May 18, 2013, 07:43:23 AM »
? I am lost here.
a good ammount of things in this world are only truly enjoyable if you proceed to disengage critical thought and forget that cumbersome things like "physics" and "logic" exists.

so you stop nitpicking, you turn off your brain, and enjoy a fictional work purely for it's enjoyment face value.


and it works wonders.

I will put this in a spoiler since it isn't directly related to this anime.

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I can see where you're coming. and you do have a point, but allow me to politely disagree.

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Re: Suisei no Gargantia | Gargantia on the Verdurous Planet
« Reply #147 on: May 18, 2013, 08:48:59 AM »
? I am lost here.
a good ammount of things in this world are only truly enjoyable if you proceed to disengage critical thought and forget that cumbersome things like "physics" and "logic" exists.

so you stop nitpicking, you turn off your brain, and enjoy a fictional work purely for it's enjoyment face value.


and it works wonders.

I will put this in a spoiler since it isn't directly related to this anime.

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It depends on why you're watching it as well. There's a big difference between something you watch, to be engaged and something you watch to relax after a hard days work. That which you mentioned, while highly interesting, it isn't exactly a break or even at all relaxing if you spent your workday working out your little grey cells.

There is value in fiction that gives food for thought, no one is here to deny that. However, there is also value in something like this, the simple "feel good" shows as I call them.


Now then, as for the show itself, I'm on the border to drop it. I've already watched the last two episodes by skip watching them, if this continues, it's going to the bin.

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Re: Suisei no Gargantia | Gargantia on the Verdurous Planet
« Reply #148 on: May 20, 2013, 04:01:02 AM »
NARROW MINDED HNNNNNNNNNNNG lol


Oh so Kamina is gonna leave the fleet and hunt those squids and loot their homes
I guess Episode 8 is where he will die again  ::)


and Ledo got a good tan by the way wonder how dark he would be by episode 12
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Re: Suisei no Gargantia | Gargantia on the Verdurous Planet
« Reply #149 on: May 20, 2013, 04:54:29 AM »
finally something is happening!

FINALLY

I loved how he went like "DONT TOUCH ME YOU FILTHY WHORE!"

hope she gets the D before the end tho. . .

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« Reply #150 on: May 20, 2013, 09:58:59 PM »
Funny how we are supposed to think of these two cultures as either different or maybe even polar opposites of each other, the Galactic Alliance, and Gargantua, when in reality, oooh there's that word again!!!!, both cultures are identical in their herd/pack mentality approach to life. One is a passive herbivore kind of life, the other a carnivore, but both groups need for all people to think in the same manner regarding survival of the group.
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« Reply #151 on: May 20, 2013, 11:32:58 PM »
One of them also has a planet.

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« Reply #152 on: May 23, 2013, 08:53:04 PM »
I hope they put more strain on the "attack vs. peace" attitudes and split between the fleet members. Hopefully that'll create the conflict and action that will make this series worth watching. Maybe Urobuchi is finally bringing in the mindfuck that we know he always includes in his series somewhere.

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« Reply #153 on: May 24, 2013, 06:19:53 AM »
Oh yes, I can't wait for Urobuchi to start killing off all the characters we get attached to. My bet is first and foremost on the Amy dying a horrible death.
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« Reply #154 on: May 24, 2013, 06:26:41 PM »
Oh yes, I can't wait for Urobutcher to start killing off all the characters we get attached to. My bet is first and foremost on the Amy dying a horrible death.

Fixed :)

Regarding who'll be first to die - I think it'll be clone-of-Kamina (TTGL) guy.

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« Reply #155 on: May 24, 2013, 06:51:12 PM »
Holy shit! How did I not realize that he was a Kamina clone? If I photoshop those glasses on to him... holy shit!
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« Reply #156 on: May 26, 2013, 11:56:15 AM »
Just caught up, amazing anime so far though I am happy that there's some conflict happening since the slice-of-life can only carry it for so long. It was great that they focused so much on Ledo coming to an understanding of how things work.

I don't really cared much for the dancing. I mean, Amy is maybe 14 years old and here she is dancing half-naked in front of a bunch of people. Definitely an "eh?" moment.

It's a shame it's only 12 episodes since I can see potential in this show to continue. Hopefully, that is the case after these 12 eps.

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« Reply #157 on: May 27, 2013, 03:24:10 AM »
.... so much slice of life

zzzzzzzzzzzz  4 episodes to go, and the only thing that might be memorable from this show is the tanned loli


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« Reply #158 on: May 27, 2013, 04:44:58 AM »
really this series had so much potential
they had to ruin it and make it a slice-of-life shit >:(

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« Reply #159 on: May 27, 2013, 05:31:04 AM »
Looks like in the next episode preview someone may die. Seems like there was a big underwater explosion of some sort, maybe the hideauze self-destruct? xD

Hopefully these next 4 episodes will make the series. I've been enjoying it since the beginning, so I have no qualms, but it seems like the action that'll make the series is coming up in the next couple of episodes. I mean, Tokyo Magnitude 8.0 was similar up until the last two episodes, and those last two episodes made the series. Who's to say this anime can't do the same thing?