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Saras:
The 8970 isn't a direct competitor, because it ain't coming out any time soon
http://wccftech.com/amd-confirms-radeon-hd-8000-sea-island-delay-hd-7000-series-remain-primary-focus/

The Geforce Titan
http://wccftech.com/nvidia-reportedly-preparing-geforce-titan-gpu-gk110/
http://wccftech.com/asus-geforce-titan-6-gb-listed-online-1300-launch-imminent/

kitamesume:
i wasn't talking about titan you know, i'm talking about what the GTX780 will actually be... its the people's hype about titan that made a false rumor anyway.

Saras:
That's out of my own assumption. There's little else to go by with at the time of writing.

nVidia has been doing everything it can to keep the production cost as low as possible, I don't see them going against what they were doing for the last few years and just supersizing their die. The profit margins are low as they are already, their share holders wouldn't quite like them to sell cards at a loss.

I see them going the same way as intel really. Want affordable more than good enough computing? There's 1155 platform. Want something more than that? Pay the premium for LGA2011. Just in nVidias case, it's going to be GTX/Titan.

kitamesume:
going by that assumption Nvidia would have a possibility of losing the title of fastest this year around.


excluding the fact that theres a high chance that AMD will pospone HD8000 series, along with Nvidia doing so as well.
following this chart as a baseline and the claim of HD8970 being 20-30% faster than HD7970, it would result with HD8970 being 15% faster than GTX680.
now with your claim of GTX780 being a refresh of GTX680, possibly pushing the base clock to 1100mhz and maybe a little refinements on the die itself, at most the final product would be 15% faster.

with this we can say that both HD8970 and GTX780 would be equal, but looking at the clock speeds alone, HD8970 would have the advantage of having higher overclocking headroom since it can go about with a baseclock of 900-1000mhz, with both AMD and Nvidia aiming at the price point of $500 it should point out that AMD would have the edge over this competition, much more so with AMD's sly tactics of either dropping price or releasing a revised HD8970.

Saras:
The Titan is still a single GPU card by nVidia that AMD has no answer to. Even with a 15-30% bump over the current 680.

nVidia will continue to hold the title of having the fastest card, irregardless of where its 780 will stand.

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