Author Topic: Videos on VLC lag in fullscreen (Read 3190 times)

rustypwns · « **on:** February 25, 2013, 01:47:15 AM »

For some odd reason I noticed that when I fullscreen videos on vlc 2.0.5, there's microstuttering, not hardcore lag, but it's like I'm getting 20fps instead of 60, or 120. If I stretch the windows to fill the screen it doesn't lag, only when I double click and maximize it.

Turning hardware acceleration off or on doesn't really do anything. Any help? Thanks in advance

megido-rev.M · « **Reply #1 on:** February 25, 2013, 02:58:40 AM »

Could you try another player to verify?

rustypwns · « **Reply #2 on:** February 25, 2013, 03:01:14 AM »

Quote from: megido-rev.M on February 25, 2013, 02:58:40 AM

Could you try another player to verify?

Oh damn my bad I was going to edit my post and say that when I play the same file with wmp it doesn't microstutter. It's not heavy lag just nowhere near as smooth as it should be!

Freedom Kira · « **Reply #3 on:** February 25, 2013, 04:48:22 AM »

Generally, VLC is not recommended around here. It's decent but not a first choice.

rustypwns · « **Reply #4 on:** February 25, 2013, 04:49:35 AM »

Quote from: Freedom Kira on February 25, 2013, 04:48:22 AM

Generally, VLC is not recommended around here. It's decent but not a first choice.

Could you give me a list of media players you recommend?

Al_Sleeper · « **Reply #5 on:** February 25, 2013, 09:36:28 AM »

MPC-HC and, maybe, Zoom Player.

mrdkreka · « **Reply #6 on:** February 25, 2013, 09:39:44 AM »

CCCP (include MPC-HC)

You could also look on the wiki page for playback, but it is slightly outdated.

buchno · « **Reply #7 on:** February 25, 2013, 10:47:24 AM »

You have many choices, and VLC is generally the fallback option for stubborn files that don't want to be played by other means.
Some people advocate the use of madVR, LAVFilters and MPC-HC, as shown in this install guide and the Kawaii Codec Pack.
Other people stick to the CCCP with a player of choice (often MPC-HC).
Personally, I use mplayer2 with a graphical frontend, although it's most popular in the world of Linux.

Be prepared for people having different opinions. I say you should just stick to what works.

rustypwns · « **Reply #8 on:** February 25, 2013, 05:56:58 PM »

I downloaded MPC-HC and I've been testing it. I recently got a new video card so I was stressing that it was that all along. But maybe in all the worrying I finally noticed the lag in vlc, and I've been using vlc for years. I compared the same mkv on both programs and on MPC it runs like butter. Wow I feel like I've been missing out all this time. I didn't install the CCCP, just MPC-HC, is that fine or?? Thanks a bunch guys really

zherok · « **Reply #9 on:** February 25, 2013, 06:10:43 PM »

If you have a decent computer then the Kawaii codec pack buchno mentioned is probably the way to go. You may want to uninstall MPC-HC since it installs it's own copy.

Go with CCCP if Kawaii is too much, but I'm guessing it'll work fine.

mrdkreka · « **Reply #10 on:** February 25, 2013, 07:14:39 PM »

Quote from: zherok on February 25, 2013, 06:10:43 PM

If you have a decent computer then the Kawaii codec pack buchno mentioned is probably the way to go. You may want to uninstall MPC-HC since it installs it's own copy.

Go with CCCP if Kawaii is too much, but I'm guessing it'll work fine.

I would say install CCCP and then instal madVR would be a better solution, so you know how to update madVR independent of the codec pack, since it quite often madVR gets updated. However since I haven't tried Kawaii pack, they might be updating the pack so often that it won't be a concern/problem for you, and if so I would also say go with Kawaii pack.

megido-rev.M · « **Reply #11 on:** February 27, 2013, 02:45:52 AM »

PotPlayer+LAV+madVR+a couple things

Tiffanys · « **Reply #12 on:** February 27, 2013, 03:14:50 AM »

VLC is terrible. It uses its own internal codecs, so you can pretty much expect it to lag like shit.

Get Shark007+MPC-HC instead, and configure it so it uses the external codecs.

But uh... just to throw this out there... movies play at around 25fps, it isn't a video game.

Freedom Kira · « **Reply #13 on:** February 27, 2013, 05:21:06 AM »

Personally I use the free version of Zoomplayer. I find it to require the least amount of work to get set up and running, because all your codecs are managed for you through the Install Center. You'll get an update notification whenever you use a codec that has an update available.

If you use MPC-HC, you generally should be handling the codec installations manually. As others have mentioned, CCCP, MadVR, and LAV are things you should be installing alongside MPC-HC.

rustypwns · « **Reply #14 on:** March 02, 2013, 03:45:46 AM »

Okay idk if I should make a new thread or not, but whatever. I've been using mpc-hc +cccp and now things are getting funky. On random mkv's, some play subtitles, others don't. Sometimes the one show will play fine while the other has issues with subtitles, then the next day vice versa. If I restart my computer, it'll work, for one episode. Then that's it. It's so inconsistent and I'm really not liking this.

Al_Sleeper · « **Reply #15 on:** March 02, 2013, 04:06:51 AM »

Try installing K-Lite instead of CCCP.

mrdkreka · « **Reply #16 on:** March 03, 2013, 04:35:56 PM »

Quote from: rustypwns on March 02, 2013, 03:45:46 AM

Okay idk if I should make a new thread or not, but whatever. I've been using mpc-hc +cccp and now things are getting funky. On random mkv's, some play subtitles, others don't. Sometimes the one show will play fine while the other has issues with subtitles, then the next day vice versa. If I restart my computer, it'll work, for one episode. Then that's it. It's so inconsistent and I'm really not liking this.

Are you using the mpc-hc that followed the CCCP installation, or do you also have your own MPC-HC installed? if you are using your own MPC-HC then stop doing that, and start using the light version that followed in CCCP, there is also a new version of CCCP out, which most likely will fix your problem if it wasn't caused by having two MPC-HC.

loli · « **Reply #17 on:** March 03, 2013, 05:10:25 PM »

There's this new codec pack, KCP. Try it out.

It contains the best subtitle renderer, best decoders and filters. You can adjust the settings easily too, from what I've heard.

megido-rev.M · « **Reply #18 on:** March 04, 2013, 02:12:54 AM »

Quote from: loli on March 03, 2013, 05:10:25 PM

There's this new codec pack, KCP. Try it out.

It contains the best subtitle renderer, best decoders and filters. You can adjust the settings easily too, from what I've heard.

Has all I use outside the player.
I like keeping my installations in small pieces though.

rustypwns · « **Reply #19 on:** March 07, 2013, 08:28:39 PM »

Here's an Update to everyone

I became more acquainted with mpchc and all these filters and whatnot. I followed a 10bit guide online and pretty much made a copy of what is known as the Kawaii codec pack. I'm more comfortable with working with it but I still get this persistent issue.

This is exactly how I experience the problem. I play a random mkv, works flawless (regardless 8bit or 10bit). Open the next one in a series (tried with playlist and without, makes no difference) the subtitles are missing in some areas. For example the OP has them but the rest don't, most times it's completely missing. I open a different anime that's mkv, and it works fine, if I play another episode of the same anime it messes up again. If I restart my computer it works until it feels like messing up again.

I'm about to drop mpchc, so inconsistent. And I'm not dumb with computers, all my drivers are up to date. Thanks for all the replies everyone btw. I really appreciate the help. I've been searching on for days and a lot of people have this same issue and there's no conclusive fix for it. I made sure I had autoload subtitles checked off b/c I'm using the external xy-vsfilter, I also made sure in xy to "autoload subtitles". I'm using madVR Haali and LAV filters.