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raandomer:
Wow.... ok, think about my advice for a second, or a min
Computer bought from store:
pay 70 odd for building fee
Computer breaks = you send it back to shop/oem
time wasted = time to get said pc to shop/oem
The skill level of guys at shop isnt relevant to you, its their problem to get your computer up.
(as an aside, why the hell are you buying from a pc store that doesnt know how to fix pcs?)
Computer built yourself:
Computer breaks = you need to diagnose it yourself
time wasted = many hours cause you have no idea what your doing
assuming you spend say 10hrs trying to fix it and assuming you usually earn say 20/hr that equates to 200, see my point?
So unless you arent employed, or have heaps of times on your hands, or just like tinkering around, or know what your doing then by all means go nuts.
But for most people, when you come home from work you just want to wind down with family, surf net a bit, or game if thats your thing you definitely dont want to spend your time trying to fix a pc
GoGeTa006:
well heres my story:
- I took out the video card and fucked up so bad cause I broke the GPU lock :P (you know that crappy plastic part that does nothing)
anyways, It was ugly-broken so i broke it nicely so it looked clean. . .sent it back, they didnt say anything (pins werent bent), so they refunded my money for the mobo. . . afterwards I bought a new (NOT CHEAP) mobo (2x price). . .still not a saberthoot (i wish. . .:() anyways. . .
I also RMA'd the RAM and SSD, and I have the new mobo (ASRock Z77 Extreme 4) and the same RAM (Corsair Vengeance 1600 2x8 GB)
and everythign seems nice and dandy. . .the system has been running stable since monday. . . so my final system:
- Fractal Design R4 with side panel (beautiful and pretty damn silent)
- NZXT LED lights (white)
- Intel i5 3570K OC at 4.0 Ghz + Cooler Master Hyper TX3 Heatsink
- ASRock Motherboard Z77 Extreme 4
- 2x8GB 1600 Corsair Vengeance RAM
- 128 GB SSD (Vertex III)
- OCZ 700W PSU
- Asus Directcu II Radeon HD7950 3-slot GPU (Rainbow Dash approved (*20% cooler) )
- 24" Dell S2440L 1080p monitor
--- Quote from: raandomer on March 14, 2013, 03:07:17 AM ---Wow.... ok, think about my advice for a second, or a min
Computer bought from store:
pay 70 odd for building fee
Computer breaks = you send it back to shop/oem
time wasted = time to get said pc to shop/oem
The skill level of guys at shop isnt relevant to you, its their problem to get your computer up.
(as an aside, why the hell are you buying from a pc store that doesnt know how to fix pcs?)
Computer built yourself:
Computer breaks = you need to diagnose it yourself
time wasted = many hours cause you have no idea what your doing
assuming you spend say 10hrs trying to fix it and assuming you usually earn say 20/hr that equates to 200, see my point?
So unless you arent employed, or have heaps of times on your hands, or just like tinkering around, or know what your doing then by all means go nuts.
But for most people, when you come home from work you just want to wind down with family, surf net a bit, or game if thats your thing you definitely dont want to spend your time trying to fix a pc
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I am not the most computer savvy person. . .but everyone I know comes to me for advice (making me the savviest among my circles).
I did not take courses in how computers work, I spent 10+ hours DIAGNOSING MYSELF some issues, and I learn shit, and I like learning shit. . .something you obviously dont. . .
The point of DIY things is to LEARN FROM YOUR MISTAKES!
yes I can buy an R/C droid . . .but its more fun to make it myself and fuck up my code in arduino multiple times, and fuck up my circuit board multiple times. . .ITS CALLED A FUCKING HOBBY
raandomer:
Please read again:
--- Quote from: raandomer on March 14, 2013, 03:07:17 AM ---So unless you arent employed, or have heaps of times on your hands, or just like tinkering around, or know what your doing then by all means go nuts.
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nice, good that your got it working again.
for future references, a good way to diagnose (this will be quite general, it'll be faster if your recognise certain symptoms and replace the offending part(s))
1. reinstall windows (so you know its not a software issue)
2. recable/rebuild (parts/plugs not in properly or just bad cables)
3. grab a voltmeter and check your psu
4. Rip everything out except the core parts: cpu, mobo, 1 stick of ram, psu (and maybe a gpu if you dont have integrated gpu)
5. boot from a usb or cd and stress test individual parts (ultimate boot cd, or something like that would work)
6. then slowly rebuild your pc, testing each part as you place it back into your system
You can try diagnosing the usual suspects first (ram, bent pins, hdd, gpu, psu) but yeah you'll need to know the telltail signs, eg data corruption = hdd or ram, random artifacts/bsod = ram, artifacts ingame = gpu/psu, etc
megido-rev.M:
--- Quote from: raandomer on March 14, 2013, 03:32:13 AM ---Please read again:
--- Quote from: raandomer on March 14, 2013, 03:07:17 AM ---So unless you arent employed, or have heaps of times on your hands, or just like tinkering around, or know what your doing then by all means go nuts.
--- End quote ---
nice, good that your got it working again.
for future references, a good way to diagnose (this will be quite general, it'll be faster if your recognise certain symptoms and replace the offending part(s))
1. reinstall windows (so you know its not a software issue)
2. recable/rebuild (parts/plugs not in properly or just bad cables)
3. grab a voltmeter and check your psu
4. Rip everything out except the core parts: cpu, mobo, 1 stick of ram, psu (and maybe a gpu if you dont have integrated gpu)
5. boot from a usb or cd and stress test individual parts (ultimate boot cd, or something like that would work)
6. then slowly rebuild your pc, testing each part as you place it back into your system
You can try diagnosing the usual suspects first (ram, bent pins, hdd, gpu, psu) but yeah you'll need to know the telltail signs, eg data corruption = hdd or ram, random artifacts/bsod = ram, artifacts ingame = gpu/psu, etc
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Uhh......
raandomer:
eliminating driver issues? or some rogue software? or even some annoying virus? Thats a fair starting point of diagnosing issues.... Its a fair assumption that most people are using wondows, if your rocking a mac then go chuck it back to apple, if your running a unix/linux system you should know what your doing
seriously, think for a sec before posting
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