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raandomer:
and again.............
--- Quote from: raandomer on March 14, 2013, 03:32:13 AM ---You can try diagnosing the usual suspects first (ram, bent pins, hdd, gpu, psu) but yeah you'll need to know the telltail signs, eg data corruption = hdd or ram, random artifacts/bsod = ram, artifacts ingame = gpu/psu, etc
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also, ram can do that too, though extremely rare, i think i've only seen it happen once. It could even be the pcie slot playing up. so no, its a good indication that gpu is to blame but is not always the case, and as you can see from this time its the mobo doing something weird
kitamesume:
--- Quote from: lothar863 on March 14, 2013, 11:35:10 AM ---That is only the first thing the shop does if they are a lousy shop/tech
From that first pic that problem could have been nothing but video
referring to this one
http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/4981/img0132wr.jpg
if any real tech and not someone that just knows a little saw that the problem would have been identified in 5 mins
they only catch is what part of the video is causing the problem
discrete card, on board card, system memory that on board card is using?
But the ONLY thing that will ever give a screen like that is a bad video issue
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not entirely, a bad driver does that, i've experienced it from a lousy AMD driver beta version.
so yes, theres not just the usual parts causing it, even the unexpected ones can cause issues, like what? bad VRMs supply, a shitty powersupply overvolting the parts, a bad motherboard trace having one signal trace disconnected or even motherboard sockets with bent pins, and even a bad BIOS version can cause it.
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as for overclocking, well do note the fact that there hasn't been any single CPU that can suck over 300watts even OCed to 6.3Ghz, usually the SB-E/IVY-E are the only ones that can breach that.
now considering each PCI-E should supply 75watts on each socket, plus other factors, you can say that an M-ATX should be able to handle at least 600watts max load, most mainstream board are capable of that.
Freedom Kira:
--- Quote from: raandomer on March 14, 2013, 11:18:14 AM ---whats wrong with reinstalling? its a quick easy way to get rid of any software issues? (unless your a program whore and need 30 programs just to surf the web... and your msconfig has over 100 items in it)
Guess what the first thing most pc shops/oem do when they have a problem pc on their hands... reinstall/reimage windows
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Easy, yes; quick, no. Especially if you play more than a couple games or have lots of work that you can't lose.
It's nice that you only ever surf the web on your computer, as I'd assume from your "just to surf the web" comment. Maybe you should get a Chromebook. It automatically reinstalls itself whenever it encounters problems, too, if I recall correctly. Sounds like the perfect match for you.
Pentium100:
--- Quote from: Freedom Kira on March 14, 2013, 06:10:29 PM ---Easy, yes; quick, no. Especially if you play more than a couple games or have lots of work that you can't lose.
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Depending on the problem, reinstalling Windows can be a useful advice. However, I do not install the new copy of Windows over my old. I grab an unused hard drive (doesn't really matter how big, as long as Windows can fit in it) and install the new copy there. If the problem remains, I can continue troubleshooting the hardware, if it goes away, I start troubleshooting the software (on my old install).
Though first I troubleshoot the hardware - look for bad caps, probe the PSU output with an oscilloscope, test RAM... If I am installing a new copy of Windows to an unused HDD, it means I ran out of better ideas.
kitamesume:
--- Quote from: Freedom Kira on March 14, 2013, 06:10:29 PM ---
--- Quote from: raandomer on March 14, 2013, 11:18:14 AM ---whats wrong with reinstalling? its a quick easy way to get rid of any software issues? (unless your a program whore and need 30 programs just to surf the web... and your msconfig has over 100 items in it)
Guess what the first thing most pc shops/oem do when they have a problem pc on their hands... reinstall/reimage windows
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Easy, yes; quick, no. Especially if you play more than a couple games or have lots of work that you can't lose.
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just having a slow harddrive is enough to drive you mad from just reinstalling, takes over 2hours if i recall correctly.
and thats with the bare installation of the OS, downloading the latest drivers with the slowest of internet is also maddening.
edit: as for games and saves though, well they can be easily reinstalled if you still have their installers at hand, you don't really need to install them all at once, just install the ones you currently play.
having the games and saves on another harddrive or even just a partition saves you the hassle of losing them, except for games that are tied within registry entries and such.
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