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Re: new android phone candidate
« Reply #40 on: April 22, 2013, 08:47:19 AM »
samsung-GS4 is out and its packed with muscles, software won't be getting any updates anytime soon though.
im still with Butterfly...well, S4 is pretty big...

Also ffs stop playing BDs on a portable device. Just be satisfied with it playing 720p this well... Considering that's its fucking resolution.
before you curse people (or whatever it is), read previous post...
do i have to download/store 480p when i already have 1080p BD? think about the space man...sheesh...

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Re: new android phone candidate
« Reply #41 on: April 22, 2013, 09:08:47 AM »
samsung-GS4 is out and its packed with muscles, software won't be getting any updates anytime soon though.
im still with Butterfly...well, S4 is pretty big...

Also ffs stop playing BDs on a portable device. Just be satisfied with it playing 720p this well... Considering that's its fucking resolution.
before you curse people (or whatever it is), read previous post...
do i have to download/store 480p when i already have 1080p BD? think about the space man...sheesh...

1. Download what you want to watch (can be done straight to android with ttorrent).
2. Watch.
3. Delete.
4. Go to step 1.

And yes whining about having to temporarily store small 720p rips is retarded, when you're storing several gig bd rips of at least some shit that you'll never watch again. All you have to do is *gasp* actually watch shit you download and keep track of it so you'll remove it afterwards. I do this every day, and it's really fucking easy. Hell half the time I don't bother to delete since the ripsare so small, or I just download straight to phone. If your point of inquiry was whether any current devices could play them, you have received your answer. Deal with it or wait till they pack an i3 inside your phone.



Also fyi phones are usually like 15–32 gig base, and up to 64 gig sd card expansion. At the most you just have to use 5 percent of a 2tb hdd as an android storage section for what you watch on your phone. Also some bd rips of 1080p are 32 gigs for the series. It's just dumb to waste your entire phone storage on 1–2 series.
« Last Edit: April 22, 2013, 09:18:13 AM by xShadow »

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Re: new android phone candidate
« Reply #42 on: April 22, 2013, 09:15:31 AM »
ohh you had that much stuff packed on one sidepocket, well it would be crowded indeed, but normally it should be smartphone+wallet.hard.case for one pocket and a handkerchief+change on the other, keys and thumbdrive can hang on your belt with this.

you end up with the hard-stuffs not scratching your phone and easier to sort-out stuffs since they got their own isolation. well not to change your tastes and all, its what i think would be better although other people i know just bring their own mini-handbags and throw everything in it.

having a yōjigen-pocket must be really convenient ;D

I do not have it all in one pocket. I have it throughout something like 6 pockets. I've also yet to scratch a phone or damage it in any extensible way.

Anyway, I've no use for a phone that large. Absolutely none. I neither watch video on it, nor do I game on it.

I see the appeal of having you connect it to a TV at friends house or something like that, so do I expect a decent camera on it, I like listening to music and audiobooks on it too, but you don't need a 5 inch phone for either. I'd much rather a 33% smaller screen with a 33% longer operational duration.

Once you get to the latter end of the 4 inch screens, it becomes a hassle to actually operate the keyboard single handedly. I know like 3 people who can both access the notification area, settings area and the whole of the keyboard without getting cramps while operating the phone with a single hand once you get to the 4.7 inch ones. It also looks stupid to hold a brick by your face whenever you need to use a phone as a phone.

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Re: new android phone candidate
« Reply #43 on: April 22, 2013, 11:20:57 AM »
Okay, im not going to repeat that again...

Btw, can tegra play 10bit 1080p? A question that my member just asked...which phone i dont bother to google...

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Re: new android phone candidate
« Reply #44 on: April 22, 2013, 12:22:48 PM »
Okay, im not going to repeat that again...

Btw, can tegra play 10bit 1080p? A question that my member just asked...which phone i dont bother to google...

Only x86 processors have the software to play 10 bit video effectively. No ARM processor can do that as of yet. No tegra, no snapdragon, no exynos no whatever. Your only option at the moment is to do what xShadow recommended.
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Re: new android phone candidate
« Reply #45 on: April 22, 2013, 02:07:37 PM »
i can relate to people frowning at 10bit 1080p on a cellphone for impracticalities for the most part.

but i call "stfu" if it comes to 10bit 720p, most cellphone processors still stuggles on that content yet its pretty practical.
10bit 720p has started becoming too widespread as well and re-encoding is too much of a PITA.
not to mention a well encoded 10bit file could even be as much as 20% less in filesize, a major plus in cellphone storage.

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Re: new android phone candidate
« Reply #46 on: April 22, 2013, 02:51:56 PM »
i can relate to people frowning at 10bit 1080p on a cellphone for impracticalities for the most part.

but i call "stfu" if it comes to 10bit 720p, most cellphone processors still stuggles on that content yet its pretty practical.
10bit 720p has started becoming too widespread as well and re-encoding is too much of a PITA.
not to mention a well encoded 10bit file could even be as much as 20% less in filesize, a major plus in cellphone storage.

That line of reasoning would make sense if we weren't talking about 720p bd quality. The author argues that he doesn't want to waste space downloading lower quality rips when he has all these archive- quality encodes,  which are generally bd to be worth a damn. Which is generally pretty damn large no matter how you encode it (source: coal girls releases). You're putting naturally huge files on your phone.

 There are actually plenty of encodes that are compatible with my phone that I can just painlessly straight download (horrible subs, DeadFish, etc. most notably) , and I care little about a supposed 20% size decrease when I'm just going to watch them and then delete them.


Also again, this is just crying over spilled milk. Point is most phones just can't play it. Deal with it or wait till they jam i3s in there. Those are your choices. Unless you just wanna sit here and whine about how the software/hardware isn't up there yet, you just make do. I can assure you it isn't hard to do so, esp with horrible subs and sd batch releases being seeded well enough, and with how many reincode groups (DeadFish etc) are out there.

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Re: new android phone candidate
« Reply #47 on: April 23, 2013, 01:35:38 AM »
Also again, this is just crying over spilled milk. Point is most phones just can't play it. Deal with it or wait till they jam i3s in there. Those are your choices. Unless you just wanna sit here and whine about how the software/hardware isn't up there yet, you just make do. I can assure you it isn't hard to do so, esp with horrible subs and sd batch releases being seeded well enough, and with how many reincode groups (DeadFish etc) are out there.
ohh then you'd be quite happy with the up coming atom SOCs then. Silvermont, a true 2.1ghz quad-core 22nm SOC that finally supports out-of-order execution on top of having a few ivy-bridge IGP execution units (meaning some real GPU performance this time around), and all these while still maintaining the phone TDP portfolio.

expected yields would be at least twice as former atom dual+HT, but since OoO is being introduced we can expect an even more massive improvement in it's overall IPC, i'm guessing this thing's performance will come close to somewhere about 1/3 of ivy-b's IPC performance.

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Re: new android phone candidate
« Reply #48 on: April 25, 2013, 09:40:42 AM »
So heres another question...

Let say i watch anime from my laptop, and suddenly want to watch it on my android...it something like splashtop streamer but only the media player only...

Is there any way/software to do it...ill try with the vlc streamer...

Im asking this if it is possible...

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Re: new android phone candidate
« Reply #49 on: April 25, 2013, 10:18:39 AM »
although on a slightly separate note, will be buying me a htc one, instead of the samsung S4 even though the s4 is slightly more powerful and has gesture support.

Simple reason, metal case for the phone. i drop my phones a lot and all my plastic ones have little cracks and such. The htc one has a nice metal casing on it and i like that look and feel.

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Re: new android phone candidate
« Reply #50 on: April 25, 2013, 10:26:13 AM »
although on a slightly separate note, will be buying me a htc one, instead of the samsung S4 even though the s4 is slightly more powerful and has gesture support.

Simple reason, metal case for the phone. i drop my phones a lot and all my plastic ones have little cracks and such. The htc one has a nice metal casing on it and i like that look and feel.
actually it should be the opposite, metal case, specially aluminum, does get cracks(rarely) or gets bent during impacts and they don't flex back.
while soft plastic(not the hard ones) just flexes back, hard-plastics though does get cracked but they're heat-treatable.
fiber reinforced soft polycarbonate works best as the exterior case since it absorbs impacts to some degree, why else would car bumpers be made out of fiberglass instead of some cheapo aluminum?

edit: ohh and theres this type of cases.
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Re: new android phone candidate
« Reply #51 on: April 25, 2013, 11:35:32 PM »
although on a slightly separate note, will be buying me a htc one, instead of the samsung S4 even though the s4 is slightly more powerful and has gesture support.

Simple reason, metal case for the phone. i drop my phones a lot and all my plastic ones have little cracks and such. The htc one has a nice metal casing on it and i like that look and feel.
actually it should be the opposite, metal case, specially aluminum, does get cracks(rarely) or gets bent during impacts and they don't flex back.
while soft plastic(not the hard ones) just flexes back, hard-plastics though does get cracked but they're heat-treatable.
fiber reinforced soft polycarbonate works best as the exterior case since it absorbs impacts to some degree, why else would car bumpers be made out of fiberglass instead of some cheapo aluminum?

edit: ohh and theres this type of cases.

i fucking hate cases, and i dont care if my phone has dinks in it. but the plastic ones i have always get cracks in the sides from being dropped

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Re: new android phone candidate
« Reply #52 on: April 25, 2013, 11:46:57 PM »
Also again, this is just crying over spilled milk. Point is most phones just can't play it. Deal with it or wait till they jam i3s in there. Those are your choices. Unless you just wanna sit here and whine about how the software/hardware isn't up there yet, you just make do. I can assure you it isn't hard to do so, esp with horrible subs and sd batch releases being seeded well enough, and with how many reincode groups (DeadFish etc) are out there.
ohh then you'd be quite happy with the up coming atom SOCs then. Silvermont, a true 2.1ghz quad-core 22nm SOC that finally supports out-of-order execution on top of having a few ivy-bridge IGP execution units (meaning some real GPU performance this time around), and all these while still maintaining the phone TDP portfolio.

expected yields would be at least twice as former atom dual+HT, but since OoO is being introduced we can expect an even more massive improvement in it's overall IPC, i'm guessing this thing's performance will come close to somewhere about 1/3 of ivy-b's IPC performance.

Maybe, but I already think that it's great to be able to play anime in HD on my SGS3. I don't really care about more power much, in fact at some point it just gets silly.

 It might be worth it with a full fledged os, so I could at least play visual novels on it,  but right now? Hell no. This is plenty. I'm watching 720p on a tiny-associated, portable as hell device. To me, that's plenty. I don't need more. And yes, I just called my SGS3 tiny. People are really spoiled by mobile technology advances, huh?




Also, rather than cases, I really wish I had bought proper screen protection on this thing early on. I never figure out how the hell it happens, but scratches happen. And for some reason they all happen early on.
« Last Edit: April 25, 2013, 11:49:35 PM by xShadow »

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Re: new android phone candidate
« Reply #53 on: April 26, 2013, 03:19:25 AM »
So heres another question...

Let say i watch anime from my laptop, and suddenly want to watch it on my android...it something like splashtop streamer but only the media player only...

Is there any way/software to do it...ill try with the vlc streamer...

Im asking this if it is possible...

I don't get what your question is. Stick anime on your Android and you'll have anime on your Android; use whatever player you want.

Playing video via remote desktop connection is a pretty stupid idea in general. I would not recommend using Splashtop or any remote viewer software. The compromise for quality is not worth it. Better idea is to stream the media file directly, if you are worried about space usage; just make sure your connection is fast enough to stream what you want to stream (naturally, 1080p typically requires a faster connection). I use ES File Manager to do that - it can handle streaming over LAN and SFTP into MX Player.

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Re: new android phone candidate
« Reply #54 on: April 26, 2013, 07:30:17 AM »
although on a slightly separate note, will be buying me a htc one, instead of the samsung S4 even though the s4 is slightly more powerful and has gesture support.

Simple reason, metal case for the phone. i drop my phones a lot and all my plastic ones have little cracks and such. The htc one has a nice metal casing on it and i like that look and feel.
actually it should be the opposite, metal case, specially aluminum, does get cracks(rarely) or gets bent during impacts and they don't flex back.
while soft plastic(not the hard ones) just flexes back, hard-plastics though does get cracked but they're heat-treatable.
fiber reinforced soft polycarbonate works best as the exterior case since it absorbs impacts to some degree, why else would car bumpers be made out of fiberglass instead of some cheapo aluminum?

edit: ohh and theres this type of cases.
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i fucking hate cases, and i dont care if my phone has dinks in it. but the plastic ones i have always get cracks in the sides from being dropped
why the hate? i've had one on my older phones and they aren't even more than 1mm thick =/ well corners does add a bit of chunk but it's overall thickness doesn't add much, imho you get some scratch and bump tank in return.
and yes some are even stylish enough to look awesome.

eitherway, if you don't mind buying another phone in just a few months though it shouldn't be of a concern, i mean you got $600 bucks to throw away every time it gets wrecked.
yes this applies to aluminum builds as well, bumps and kinks aren't ignorable, do some heavy enough damage and it won't slip back on.

edit: found what i was looking for yesterday, might wanna give it a read.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Confirmed-the-Samsung-Galaxy-S-III-is-polycarbonate-not-plain-plastic_id30304
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Whats-in-a-touch-The-Samsung-Galaxy-S-III-polycarbonate-debate_id30406
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Re: new android phone candidate
« Reply #55 on: April 26, 2013, 11:13:24 PM »
im in america 2 yr contract im paying 199 for my phone getting 50$ for my old phone and if it manage to shatter my screen it costs 100$ to get a new one.


It would be galaxy s4 vs htc one
i personally like the htc one more just because of aesthetics
the s4 has slightly more impressive stats and would let me use an sdxc card
but aluminum case is my preference, and as far as screen protectors go anything made of plastic is gonna get ruined significantly faster then the glass screens on most high end phones. As glass is a much much much harder surface and you really need a lot to scratch the nice glass screens. I dont use a case or screen protectors

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Re: new android phone candidate
« Reply #56 on: May 24, 2013, 07:43:15 PM »
http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/22/samsung-galaxy-s-4-10-million/
"selling like hotcakes" doesn't even explain this scenario enough :o

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Re: new android phone candidate
« Reply #57 on: May 25, 2013, 09:53:55 PM »
so, at google i/o they announced that the galaxy s4 will be the first "nexus experience" device, which essentially just means it isn't a nexus (not developed by google) but will run stock android and get software updates from google. The downside (upside?) is that you have to pay full price (it will cost $649 on the play store) which is actually cheaper over the life of the phone because contract plans are way more expensive than off contract, but if you are poor then you might not be able to afford the up front cost (however, if you don't have $649 to spend then why are you even in the market for high end gadgets?). You will also only be able to use it on gsm providers, but that isn't a big deal really since t-mobile is the best carrier.

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Re: new android phone candidate
« Reply #58 on: May 26, 2013, 01:06:57 PM »
so, at google i/o they announced that the galaxy s4 will be the first "nexus experience" device, which essentially just means it isn't a nexus (not developed by google) but will run stock android and get software updates from google. The downside (upside?) is that you have to pay full price (it will cost $649 on the play store) which is actually cheaper over the life of the phone because contract plans are way more expensive than off contract, but if you are poor then you might not be able to afford the up front cost (however, if you don't have $649 to spend then why are you even in the market for high end gadgets?). You will also only be able to use it on gsm providers, but that isn't a big deal really since t-mobile is the best carrier.
how are non contract plans so much cheaper? unless you go with one of those shitty little companies that just use other peoples towers you dont get a price break in your plan

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Re: new android phone candidate
« Reply #59 on: May 26, 2013, 05:07:13 PM »
so, at google i/o they announced that the galaxy s4 will be the first "nexus experience" device, which essentially just means it isn't a nexus (not developed by google) but will run stock android and get software updates from google. The downside (upside?) is that you have to pay full price (it will cost $649 on the play store) which is actually cheaper over the life of the phone because contract plans are way more expensive than off contract, but if you are poor then you might not be able to afford the up front cost (however, if you don't have $649 to spend then why are you even in the market for high end gadgets?). You will also only be able to use it on gsm providers, but that isn't a big deal really since t-mobile is the best carrier.
how are non contract plans so much cheaper? unless you go with one of those shitty little companies that just use other peoples towers you dont get a price break in your plan

Depends on the country and the carriers I suppose.

I'm a contract-less customer, and I pay something along the lines of ~6$/mo for unlimited sms, 300 minutes of call time and a gig of data a month for my phone bill, If I had a phone like the S4 out on a 2 year contract, I'd be paying ~50$/mo for exactly the same thing + the phone.