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CappinHoff:
Using HoTD is a good example. It's a very good zombie story/anime. Pretty serious on the zombie story part, even more so than most live action zombie movies(TWD is a pretty serious show about zombies so it will be excluded).

The 1st issue is placement of the fan service. Now I'm a fan of FS and have no issues with the amount, but I can see why people do.

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Now does that scene really need to be placed at all in the series? No(remember now I love FS), but it was. Most times the placement of FS could be better in a way not to disrupt the story flow.

The 2nd issue is story flow. FS can wreck story flow like a semi hitting a yugo. HoTD is again a good example of this. The story gets flowing than absurd amounts of FS derail the flow. Usually once a story is derailed you can't get it back.

The 3rd and final issue is amount. Sometimes there is just too much FS for it's own good. When every scene contains some sort of FS it kinda kills the reason for watching. Like I've stated before I enjoy FS just as much as anyone, but sometimes I can care less to see it every episode, every scene.

sams88:

--- Quote from: AceHigh on March 16, 2013, 06:43:09 PM ---
--- Quote from: sams88 on March 16, 2013, 06:00:35 PM ---As for me defending fanservice and being dumb ... dude, when you what the PV of an Anime or read their Animelist entry you can know if it is going to be full of pantyshots, then don't watch it simple.

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Learn to read, I said defending all fanservice just like condemning it all is stupid. Those both are two extremes, it's not black and white, some fanservice is good and some is bad. Yes, it is stupid to jump one bandwagon or another.

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oh now I get it, you are that kind of forum asshole. I have better thing to do than dealing with contrarian egomaniacs, have a nice day.


--- Quote from: CappinHoff on March 16, 2013, 06:55:29 PM ---Using HoTD is a good example. It's a very good zombie story/anime. Pretty serious on the zombie story part, even more so than most live action zombie movies(TWD is a pretty serious show about zombies so it will be excluded).

The 1st issue is placement of the fan service. Now I'm a fan of FS and have no issues with the amount, but I can see why people do.

(click to show/hide)
Now does that scene really need to be placed at all in the series? No(remember now I love FS), but it was. Most times the placement of FS could be better in a way not to disrupt the story flow.

The 2nd issue is story flow. FS can wreck story flow like a semi hitting a yugo. HoTD is again a good example of this. The story gets flowing than absurd amounts of FS derail the flow. Usually once a story is derailed you can't get it back.

The 3rd and final issue is amount. Sometimes there is just too much FS for it's own good. When every scene contains some sort of FS it kinda kills the reason for watching. Like I've stated before I enjoy FS just as much as anyone, but sometimes I can care less to see it every episode, every scene.

--- End quote ---

You could take the FS out of HoTD and it would still be a solid story, but not a better story because it doesn't derail that much the plot, maybe it derails the atmosphere of the show. Some choices where truly bizarre in the show, for example featuring FS in horror scenes when school girls are getting attacked by zombies, I guess it is more a matter of tone than of plot being derailed.

Don't double post. -Sash

dbml:
To be fair to HoTD, the anime really piles on the fanservice, unlike its manga counterpart. Like Saiko's bullet-boob dance? Yeah, that's not in the manga. I also feel that HoTD's fanservice fits the series just fine. Granted, I do think it was completely overdone, but it didn't feel out of place. It's a horror comedy. If it was a straight horror series, with a complete lack of comedy, then it would feel out of place to me.

Now if a series like Death Note had it, then there would be issues. Like in the middle of a Light/L staredown, Misa comes stumbling through the door in a towel, which slips. That's awful fanservice.

AceHigh:

--- Quote from: sams88 on March 16, 2013, 06:58:40 PM ---
--- Quote from: AceHigh on March 16, 2013, 06:43:09 PM ---
--- Quote from: sams88 on March 16, 2013, 06:00:35 PM ---As for me defending fanservice and being dumb ... dude, when you what the PV of an Anime or read their Animelist entry you can know if it is going to be full of pantyshots, then don't watch it simple.

--- End quote ---

Learn to read, I said defending all fanservice just like condemning it all is stupid. Those both are two extremes, it's not black and white, some fanservice is good and some is bad. Yes, it is stupid to jump one bandwagon or another.

--- End quote ---

oh now I get it, you are that kind of forum asshole. I have better thing to do than dealing with contrarian egomaniacs, have a nice day.

--- End quote ---

Well excuse me that I get irritated at people who are twisting my words.

buchno:

--- Quote from: sams88 on March 16, 2013, 07:03:35 PM ---You could take the FS out of HoTD and it would still be a solid story, but not a better story because it doesn't derail that much the plot, maybe it derails the atmosphere of the show. Some choices where truly bizarre in the show, for example featuring FS in horror scenes when school girls are getting attacked by zombies, I guess it is more a matter of tone than of plot being derailed.

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It might not affect the story in itself, but it does have a negative influence on how it gets across to the viewer, by being a distracting, and sometimes irritating, irrelevant element. It also indicates that the creators didn't think the work was good enough to stand on its own without containing pornography in disguise.

Note that I am talking about when it is irrelevant to the plot, or executed in a lackluster manner. The nude scene in Paprika, for example, isn't distracting, since it wasn't added to please horny boys in their early puberty.

If people want to watch porn, they can watch porn.

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