Is Fanservice hate nonsense?

[Tiffanys]

[AceHigh]

Well, I wouldn't call that picture a bad fanservice, because it fucking makes sense! I also drop my pants at home when it is hot during the summer. So yes, at least that much we should be able to demand, I hate fanservice based on scenarios that make no sense whatsoever.

[sams88]

Here is the PV for HoTD, it has enough Pantyshots and Gainax breast to make the viewer aware of what to expect.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kl6cNSBg3Wg

You complaint is unfair if you didn't make the effort to screen the show

My my, you must be enjoying fanservice really hard ... seems all your reasoning relies on this PV (in japanese, i can't read it), but ok, let's see what could have "warned" me.

There is two short scenes showing panties, and these are not even what you could really call Pantyshots (showing a bit of panty is different than fanservice/pantyshots), and two others with boobs dancing around, which is kinda "soft" compared to what you're really about to see if you go further into the serie.

So first, since when a PV gives you an idea of what the show is really about ? Second, how am i supposed to know, with those couple of scenes, that the show is sooner or later going to be about girls touching their boobs, roaming around almost naked and drunk, and standing still on a car (going high speed) wearing nothing but an apron and a katana ? Third, i don't want to dig the web for anything else than basic informations about the show because i like to discover it from the scratch, which does not mean i will tolerate some boobs and panties to suddenly invade my screen for the rest of it.

But i guess this is off topic, the real subject is: sams88 loves fanservice and feels bad about it, because truth is, as someone nicely described:

Taking the FS out of HotD will not make a better show. You're right because without FS, you wouldn't even have a show. 

Look this whole sex sells thing is not new. You see it in movies, television, novels, comics, games, any medium you can think of. Anything that overly relies on sex to sell is generally rubbish. And we accept such entertainment as rubbish and a kind of guilty pleasure. Some people will dislike such entertainment though and there is nothing wrong with that. It's simply a matter of taste.

The fanservice you see in anime, a medium mostly targeted at Japanese teens, is nothing but porn for the underage.

So you come here, make this thread looks like a discussion, use some sophisms here and there, call people "asshole", "contrarian egomaniac", "unfair", "complainer" (lol!) and expect them to go "oh yea, you're right, fanservice is not good or bad, it's just about opinion !" so you can feel better and keep enjoying it.

I'm sorry but wether you like or not, fanservice is marketing. Light fanservice is light marketing, hard fanservice is hard marketing. If you like those ads on TV or in the streets, overusing boobs, ass and bitches all around, it's ok: that's 21th century for you. But if you still don't understand why many people "hate" it and keep trying to convince them it's "ok", you're doing it wrong.

Dr Freud ... is that you ? Why does every forum has the great "I have unmasked you" dude.

You can keep the psychoanalysis for yourself. As for the HoTD PV ... you must be new to anime if you didn't know where the show was going.

I see what you did there. lol

[JoonasTo]

I was looking at the recent replies and saw Tiff replied here, after showdown and was thinking: "Wow, she really bothered to respond to that?"

Enter thread, total win 

[AceHigh]

Also that GIF reminded me that buying myself a kilt would not be a bad idea for this summer.

[Lord of Fire]

You can keep the psychoanalysis for yourself. As for the HoTD PV ... you must be new to anime if you didn't know where the show was going.

Or maybe he just doesn't watch PVs, something I rarely do, either. And I too didn't know that HotD would be something like this myself before I watched it.

As for fanservice, I don't mind it when I expect it. It's when I don't expect it that it could be a problem.

[sams88]

You can keep the psychoanalysis for yourself. As for the HoTD PV ... you must be new to anime if you didn't know where the show was going.

Or maybe he just doesn't watch PVs, something I rarely do, either. And I too didn't know that HotD would be something like this myself before I watched it.

As for fanservice, I don't mind it when I expect it. It's when I don't expect it that it could be a problem.

His complaint was that HoTD didn't give viewers any indications that the show was going to be Ecchi, I just gave him the PV proving that the show was being marketed as a Pantyshootfest.

I also don't generally watch PV as a rule, I choose which shows to watch by reading on anime blogs and an internet forum where there is a good Anime thread and links to PVs. I don't believe that people are not aware of the style the show is aiming for, I don't buy the claim that people are surprised by fanservice when the shows are clearly marketed as such.

How do you choose animes to watch ? Maybe I am the only person who choose from Anime blogs and following Youtube PVs.

[Saras]

I actually don't mind that. I mind this

[sams88]

I actually don't mind that. I mind this

I have a question for you : Do you mind because you like the story and the fanservice ruins it for you or do you mind because of the overload pantyshoot /sexual content.

I don't remember watching that many panties in one frame ever ... just for the record

[Saras]

This is like HotD, you don't exactly watch it for the plot. It's the latter. That shot just makes me facepalm. Is all.

[Tatsujin]

Which anime is this? I must see the awesomeness of fanservice!

[Saras]

I believe that to be Omamori Himari.

[ConsiderPhlebas]

I believe that to be Omamori Himari.

Yeah, it's Himari herself.

[QuickSilvyr]

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I actually don't mind that. I mind this
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I have a question for you : Do you mind because you like the story and the fanservice ruins it for you or do you mind because of the overload pantyshoot /sexual content.

I don't remember watching that many panties in one frame ever ... just for the record

I couldn't refrain from posting this:

Najica Blitz Tactics

[Tatsujin]

I believe that to be Omamori Himari.

What?! ... I put that show in one of my favorite folders and I completely forgot about this scene. I still remember the OP song.

[sams88]

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I actually don't mind that. I mind this
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I have a question for you : Do you mind because you like the story and the fanservice ruins it for you or do you mind because of the overload pantyshoot /sexual content.

I don't remember watching that many panties in one frame ever ... just for the record

I couldn't refrain from posting this:

Najica Blitz Tactics

Just a flesh wound.



lol 

[Tatsujin]

Over the years, fanservice has been improving. I so love fanservice. It's not for every anime out there but having it around is pure awesomeness.

[Lord of Fire]

You can keep the psychoanalysis for yourself. As for the HoTD PV ... you must be new to anime if you didn't know where the show was going.

Or maybe he just doesn't watch PVs, something I rarely do, either. And I too didn't know that HotD would be something like this myself before I watched it.

As for fanservice, I don't mind it when I expect it. It's when I don't expect it that it could be a problem.

His complaint was that HoTD didn't give viewers any indications that the show was going to be Ecchi, I just gave him the PV proving that the show was being marketed as a Pantyshootfest.

But like I said, if he didn't watch the PV (assuming that's the case) and only read the basic gist of the plot (students trying to survive a zombie outbreak), you'd have very little go by. That's the mistake I made when picking this show: I went solely on the premise and didn't dig deeper until it was too late. Do note that I still liked the show, but the fanservice did tick me off at times and made me enjoy the show less than I might have otherwise.

How do you choose animes to watch ? Maybe I am the only person who choose from Anime blogs and following Youtube PVs.

I go mainly by:
1. Genre – I have a strong affinity for comedy, slice of life and romance. it's how I managed to sit through all those harem shows without getting sick of them, like a lot of others do.
2. Art style – If it looks appealing, chances of me being interested is higher than otherwise.
3. Synopsis – What's the plot of the show (if it has any)? Do note that a show with no plot can still have as much chances to be watched than one with a 'serious' plot.
4. Studio – It's not really a deal-breaker in most cases, though I will try anything KyoAni or SHAFT spits out (favorite studios). And J.C. Staff have also proven their worth to me lots of times, so I often end up watching their stuff, too.

Optional:
5. PVs – Usually only of shows I'm really interested in, though even then I'll just go by instinct.
6. In-depth preview, like ANN's Anime Spotlights.
7. Familiarity with the source material (assuming it's an adaptation – Considering I very rarely read manga or otherwise, this usually doesn't apply.
8. Blog commentary – An anime praised at Random Curiosity or similar blog site can often end up being watched by me.

[Showdown]

Oh my gosh! I dropped School days one month ago and tonight i was like "ok let's give it another try". So i double clicked episode 4 and got that first "welcome back" camera angle:



WHAT TEH FUCK noooooooooo this thread cursed me

[sams88]

You can keep the psychoanalysis for yourself. As for the HoTD PV ... you must be new to anime if you didn't know where the show was going.

Or maybe he just doesn't watch PVs, something I rarely do, either. And I too didn't know that HotD would be something like this myself before I watched it.

As for fanservice, I don't mind it when I expect it. It's when I don't expect it that it could be a problem.

His complaint was that HoTD didn't give viewers any indications that the show was going to be Ecchi, I just gave him the PV proving that the show was being marketed as a Pantyshootfest.

But like I said, if he didn't watch the PV (assuming that's the case) and only read the basic gist of the plot (students trying to survive a zombie outbreak), you'd have very little go by. That's the mistake I made when picking this show: I went solely on the premise and didn't dig deeper until it was too late. Do note that I still liked the show, but the fanservice did tick me off at times and made me enjoy the show less than I might have otherwise.

How do you choose animes to watch ? Maybe I am the only person who choose from Anime blogs and following Youtube PVs.

I go mainly by:
1. Genre – I have a strong affinity for comedy, slice of life and romance. it's how I managed to sit through all those harem shows without getting sick of them, like a lot of others do.
2. Art style – If it looks appealing, chances of me being interested is higher than otherwise.
3. Synopsis – What's the plot of the show (if it has any)? Do note that a show with no plot can still have as much chances to be watched than one with a 'serious' plot.
4. Studio – It's not really a deal-breaker in most cases, though I will try anything KyoAni or SHAFT spits out (favorite studios). And J.C. Staff have also proven their worth to me lots of times, so I often end up watching their stuff, too.

Optional:
5. PVs – Usually only of shows I'm really interested in, though even then I'll just go by instinct.
6. In-depth preview, like ANN's Anime Spotlights.
7. Familiarity with the source material (assuming it's an adaptation – Considering I very rarely read manga or otherwise, this usually doesn't apply.
8. Blog commentary – An anime praised at Random Curiosity or similar blog site can often end up being watched by me.

I see, maybe I was assuming that most people were looking it up like me, because while I was always a fan of Anime I didn't have much of a chance to watch a lot of it until getting a broadband internet connection last yet, so composing my personal watch list was first to just play random shows on the stream site list, then looking up anime blogs and podcast, where I found a lot of Fan-service Hate, and lately I just follow an Anime thread on the TWC forums for recommendations and seasons new shows announcements.

So I now get a bit of the unwelcome pantyshot feeling comes from.

Oh my gosh! I dropped School days one month ago and tonight i was like "ok let's give it another try". So i double clicked episode 4 and got that first "welcome back" camera angle:



WHAT TEH FUCK noooooooooo this thread cursed me

You can (NOT) escape. lol