Bioshock Infinite

[FlyinPenguin]

So the long awaited Bioshock Infinite was released yesterday (March 26th). I bought it but haven't opened it yet due to the fact I am 89 hours into Fallout 3 and not even halfway through the game. I must finish it before starting a new game.

I have been playing Bioshock since the first game and it is truly an experience like no other. This is not a MMS in any way, shape, or form. And based on the reviews I have read, there is even less hand holding than previous games (other than an arrow, they had very little to begin with). You don't even have that here. Although, if you do get stuck, there is an "emergency" button of sorts which will point you in the right direction (similar to the Prince of Persia 2008 directional system).

The reviews are in (must be taken with a grain of salt). The reviewers who go by a checklist are giving it a 9+ out of 10. It is important to remember those reviews don't go by overall experience. Instead, they go by a strict checklist that deducts points for the smallest of glitches. The reviewers who go by overall experience are giving this game a 10/10 and 5/5.

Reviews:
IGN 360/PS3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6Wr9VOsHYc
IGN PC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_lLSOkZRgc

I especially love that IGN said "I especially love how Infinite does away with all the hand holding crap we have seen in other games". Then I had a problem with them dissing the lack of hotkeys on the console versions. Hotkeys on consoles? Do we even expect that any more? Most of the buttons are already utilized for key functions. There is no room for hot keys. So deduct points for that? BS.

Gamespot review: iew;BioshockInfiniteRev iew" class="bbc_link" target="_blank">http://www.gamespot.com/bioshock-infinite/reviews/bioshock-infinite-review-6405506/?tag=Topslot;BioshockInfiniteRev iew;BioshockInfiniteRev iew

Machinama: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73jb0R4jMyI
Rev3 (Adam Sessler FTW): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jchIi-vR_js

Side Note: Adam Sessler was way to talented for his former employer. I love that he looks at the big picture.

[AceHigh]

I am not gullible enough to make blind purchases. First I will read the "neutral" mainstream reviews, then I will watch as Yahtzee bashes every single fault in the game and Cynical Brit gives it a review. Then and only then will this game pass the checkpoints needed for me to buy it without fear of getting an unplayable game.

[FlyinPenguin]

I am not gullible enough to make blind purchases. First I will read the "neutral" mainstream reviews, then I will watch as Yahtzee bashes every single fault in the game and Cynical Brit gives it a review. Then and only then will this game pass the checkpoints needed for me to buy it without fear of getting an unplayable game.

This isn't a matter of a blind purchase. Bishock is one of the few games that continue in the vein of originality of Half-Life. I think Irrational has earned a bit of trust. They certainly are no COD. I can't criticize you for waiting to play for yourself or watch your trusted reviewer though.

I should hope anyone who is a serious gamer and has any degree of standards is not "gullible" enough to buy a game purely based on reviews alone. Any serious gamer should have enough experience to weed through the professional and amateur reviews to make a semi informed decision before they purchase a game.

I do have a problem with the reviewers who criticize every fault. So what if you witness two occasions where a dead body falls through the floor? Is that really worth demoting a game from a perfect 10 when the overall experience is unlike any other? I guess I go generally go by overall experience over having a checklist in hand when I review a game.

[AceHigh]

Actually the reason I watch critics that slaughter everything is simply to find the faults that are game breaking to me personally. In fact, not real reviews, but more of a rant they don't even use scoring system.

I just think of myself as a patient person that will not lose anything on waiting 2 weeks before playing a game. I can however lose up to 50EUR on a game that may or not be broken if I pre-order it or buy it the first day without double checking several sources.

As for game companies that have earned our trust, I have been a gamer long enough to witness how companies that produce great games suddenly release utter shit one day. It's nothing personal against this particular company... oh wait, I forgot that Bioshock 2 was utter shit where you were playing as a dude with fish bowl on top of his head. Huge contrast of quality compared to the first one.

[vuzedome]

Plan on buying this way way later. No time to game right now but this is definitely occupying my top spot.

[FlyinPenguin]

Actually the reason I watch critics that slaughter everything is simply to find the faults that are game breaking to me personally. In fact, not real reviews, but more of a rant they don't even use scoring system.

I just think of myself as a patient person that will not lose anything on waiting 2 weeks before playing a game. I can however lose up to 50EUR on a game that may or not be broken if I pre-order it or buy it the first day without double checking several sources.

As for game companies that have earned our trust, I have been a gamer long enough to witness how companies that produce great games suddenly release utter shit one day. It's nothing personal against this particular company... oh wait, I forgot that Bioshock 2 was utter shit where you were playing as a dude with fish bowl on top of his head. Huge contrast of quality compared to the first one.

I agree that pre-ordering is generally a bad idea.

However, I think the decline of prominent and original developers is usually not an overnight process. For me, if they have produced original and engaging games in the past, I can usually expect similar results in the future. The risk is that you never know when that process will suddenly start to break and fall apart. It can be a sudden event and start with one title or it can be a slow but ongoing process.

In terms of Bio Shock 2... I absolutely loved the concept. The Big Daddy and Little Sister were one of the most interesting and original concepts of Bio Shock. A whole game exploring that concept made perfect sense and Irrational did a spectacular job of expanding the story of Bio Shock with 2. I was never bored a single moment and was constantly learning more about the back story of Rapture, Adam, and the Big Daddy and Little Sister dynamic that was really the foundation of original Bio Shock.

I don't know if you have played BS2 or not but I have heard people bash the game simply because they thought was a cheap knock off of the original but I can assure you, it is nothing of the sort. The Big Daddy and Little Sister helped created the perfect framework to expand on the original and engaging story of BS1.

[Volusus]

Are the Bioshocks worth buying? I had fun playing System Shock 2 (and had an aneurysm trying to play 1.)

[FlyinPenguin]

Are the Bioshocks worth buying? I had fun playing System Shock 2 (and had an aneurysm trying to play 1.)

I say yes but that depends on your preference of games. I found them nothing short of amazing. Truly unlike any other FPS I have played since Half-Life. If you want a COD experience though, you might as well skip them. If you are open to unique stories and with engaging combat, then buy them. BS1 can be had for dead cheap.

[AceHigh]

I played Bioshock 2, although only for about half an hour before uninstalling. The main reason is the wrong feel. In the end of Bioshock you put on the suit to mimic a big daddy, controls changed you felt like that massive heavy chunk of charging apocalypse. In BS2 that feel disappeared, you were agile and thus it felt like you are literally just a dude with a fishbowl on your head instead of a proper big daddy.

So no, my dislike does not come from the notion that it is a cheap knock off, but because the game mechanics that I experienced for a short while in the end of the first game were screwed up in the second. As for the concept I would rather explore the prequel with the turmoil that happened in the city, further delving into the theme of science vs ethics instead of exploring tools and by-product of that unrestraint science.

Still, the new Bioshock has new setting, so I will welcome it open mindedly as soon as I check that game mechanics are in order.

[FlyinPenguin]

I played Bioshock 2, although only for about half an hour before uninstalling. The main reason is the wrong feel. In the end of Bioshock you put on the suit to mimic a big daddy, controls changed you felt like that massive heavy chunk of charging apocalypse. In BS2 that feel disappeared, you were agile and thus it felt like you are literally just a dude with a fishbowl on your head instead of a proper big daddy.

So no, my dislike does not come from the notion that it is a cheap knock off, but because the game mechanics that I experienced for a short while in the end of the first game were screwed up in the second. As for the concept I would rather explore the prequel with the turmoil that happened in the city, further delving into the theme of science vs ethics instead of exploring tools and by-product of that unrestraint science.

Still, the new Bioshock has new setting, so I will welcome it open mindedly as soon as I check that game mechanics are in order.

I would have loved a prequel to BS1. That was what I wanted for a new BS game.

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I honestly hated the portion of BS1 where you were a Big Daddy. The helmet blocking my view was annoying as fuck. However, BS2's Big Daddy felt natural which it should have. In BS1 you were a cobbled and quickly put together Big Daddy designed to only pass the "smell test" of a Little Sister. In BS2 you were a proper Big Daddy. You were completely stripped of your human origin and were a true big daddy. If anything it was screwed up in BS1.

You said it yourself. In BS1 you were mimicking a Big Daddy. In BS2 you were a Bid Daddy. The feel should have been natural in BS2.

And honestly, for a game of such high quality as BS, 30 minutes really isn't enough to make a solid determination about the game. You should at least play a level or two.

[zherok]

Preordered it, started playing yesterday. It's good so far, characters are interesting, the setting is interesting, weapons are solid. You apparently can only hold two weapons at a time though.

This (somewhat spoiler-y) review gives some criticism, and one I'm inclined to agree with so far is that the vigors seem like transposing Bioshock 1 and 2's gameplay onto a game that doesn't have the same justification as to why you have those abilities. What makes sense in Rapture doesn't naturally make sense in Columbia.

Still, I'm happy so far. $46 dollars from GMG, along with a copy of the original, Civ 5, and X-COM is a pretty nice preorder deal.

[FlyinPenguin]

I wonder if vigors will be explained later in the game?

[RaW-D-Coy]

it sure took a while to download :< but now i got it and it's awesome :3

[FlyinPenguin]

it sure took a while to download :< but now i got it and it's awesome :3

Blah, physical copies FTW. But I digress.

[vuzedome]

it sure took a while to download :< but now i got it and it's awesome :3

Blah, physical copies FTW. But I digress.

Definitely physicals first, updating it will do.

[Saras]

I don't have too much free time to invest into a game now, with midterms coming basically next week and a huge backlog. But this is pretty much the only new game I've anticipated to play this year. I'll most likely get it and play it sometime in the summer.

Also, steam only for me. I've no option to give back old games for store credit and no use for having boxes about. Steam on the other hand is hassle free and chances are, I'll get it far cheaper than for 60$. I've also a connection that varies between 0.07-1gbps and no caps. I can download the game from the servers whenever I please.

[Tiffanys]

Would I need to have played the previous two games first? Like, is it a continuation or a different story entirely?

[HeartVivian]

Would I need to have played the previous two games first? Like, is it a continuation or a different story entirely?

Entirely different story.

[zherok]

It might be better if you've never played them, since you'll have no preconceptions as to what's supposed to happen.

[hybridial]

I am not gullible enough to make blind purchases. First I will read the "neutral" mainstream reviews, then I will watch as Yahtzee bashes every single fault in the game and Cynical Brit gives it a review. Then and only then will this game pass the checkpoints needed for me to buy it without fear of getting an unplayable game.

I think it's not really any less gullible to let others do the analysis for me though, myself. I only really trust myself on these things meaning one way or the other I need to bite the bullet to be sure.