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Good virus protection for kids first computer?
JoonasTo:
--- Quote from: Tiffanys on April 06, 2013, 06:48:41 PM ---Me personally? I wouldn't. But it's extremely simple and generally devoid of viruses. Though we've always known it's because freakin' nobody uses Macs so hackers don't give a flying flip about hacking them. Better to focus on the most popular medium that has the best chances of spreading to more users.
I think it's inherently more secure given that it's on Unix, but I don't think it's safe if hackers ever really bothered. I don't even think Linux is safe from viruses, just nobody uses the garbage so nobody's making anything for it.
If you make sure to set up a non-admin user account for Windows, disable java, and disable all exe's except a specific inclusion list then the 7 year old will be practically immune to viruses. Even if they download an exe they wouldn't be able to run it.
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Mac has been cracked ten times over since they took more market share and at least used to be pretty badly updated compared to windows. Running a mac without an antivirus is stupid nowadays.
The one big bonus mac has is that it doesn't let the user do anything. Thus it might be a lot better for someone who's bound to fuck up windows just because it doesn't stop them from doing it like mac does. Too bad mac is even more gimped in compatibility.
Safety depends completely on linux. Cracking into your default linux is pretty easy but if you run a hardened version which you compiled to your parameters it's nigh impossible without knowledge of your systems. It can be done but it's basically the same as cracking into Nasa or CIA.
It's also techically easy to make a virus for a particular linux but when there's dozens of them each with a gazillion of different versions, it's not worth it. Enterprise red hat(has a few viruses every year) or mainstream ubuntu perhaps but it's still a ridiculously small target.
--- Quote from: sams88 on April 06, 2013, 06:56:51 PM ---Linux isn't that secure really because it gives the user fully control over most of the aspects of the OS, so basically a virus could cause more wreck than a Windows virus. In Ubuntu they lock some of the core system elements unless you log as Admin and in Debian you have to provide your Password every 2 seconds when doing anything like installing a program, because you are just 2 commands line away from nuking your own computer.
So any Linux virus could also do the same if it were properly designed.
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/mount /dev/sda1 /boot
rm -R /boot
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=1M
@echo off
del c:\windows\system32
--- Quote from: sams88 on April 06, 2013, 06:56:51 PM ---
--- Quote from: Tiffanys on April 06, 2013, 06:48:41 PM ---If you make sure to set up a non-admin user account for Windows, disable java, and disable all exe's except a specific inclusion list then the 7 year old will be practically immune to viruses. Even if they download an exe they wouldn't be able to run it.
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Best advice for the OP, this is going to make the computer very secure with a anti-virus and firewall.
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Agreed. But might want to just disable executives not placed in certain folders so installing games is easy.
Tiffanys:
--- Quote from: JoonasTo on April 06, 2013, 07:19:06 PM ---Agreed. But might want to just disable executives not placed in certain folders so installing games is easy.
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That would also make installing viruses easy once they figured out they can only install stuff in that folder...
kitamesume:
o.o why not lock down an entire partition and have a special partition in sandbox mode? the locked partitions can't be changed or touched, yeah it may block updates too.
sams88:
--- Quote from: JoonasTo on April 06, 2013, 07:19:06 PM ---
/mount /dev/sda1 /boot
rm -R /boot
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=1M
@echo off
del c:\windows\system32
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Not good enough, I would do:
del c:\BOOTSECT.BAK
Tiffanys:
--- Quote from: kitamesume on April 06, 2013, 07:37:15 PM ---o.o why not lock down an entire partition and have a special partition in sandbox mode? the locked partitions can't be changed or touched, yeah it may block updates too.
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They need to be able to run and update their games so I don't think that'd be feasible.
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