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Offline Pentium100

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Re: Pros and Cons of Windows 8
« Reply #20 on: April 07, 2013, 04:06:00 PM »
Anyone tried Windows8 with ClassicShell? Does it bring back the full Win2000/XP/7 UI or do you still have to use the not-Metro UI?

I really dislike the Win8 UI and the fact that it expects me to use one program at a time, maximized. The only time I run an app full screen is when I am watching a movie or playing a game. That's it. All other times I have parts of other windows poking out from under the main window so I can switch between them quickly.

Also, you have to use the command line to delete a wireless network.

In short, my coworker who has to support win8 hates it and some clients hate it also, even after specifically requesting a PC with Win8.
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Re: Pros and Cons of Windows 8
« Reply #21 on: April 07, 2013, 04:15:39 PM »
Compare to OSX it's junk. I never used the Metro Interface. They should've add virtual desktop just like in linux and OSX.
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Re: Pros and Cons of Windows 8
« Reply #22 on: April 08, 2013, 02:25:38 AM »
Anyone tried Windows8 with ClassicShell? Does it bring back the full Win2000/XP/7 UI or do you still have to use the not-Metro UI?

I really dislike the Win8 UI and the fact that it expects me to use one program at a time, maximized. The only time I run an app full screen is when I am watching a movie or playing a game. That's it. All other times I have parts of other windows poking out from under the main window so I can switch between them quickly.

Also, you have to use the command line to delete a wireless network.

From what I've seen from the Classic Shell screenshots, it does restore the 7 start menu pretty closely. Haven't actually tried it myself though.

Are you sure about having to use the command line for the wireless network? I'm pretty sure it works the same way as 7.

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Re: Pros and Cons of Windows 8
« Reply #23 on: April 08, 2013, 03:07:31 AM »
Are you sure about having to use the command line for the wireless network? I'm pretty sure it works the same way as 7.

Yes, otherwise the coworker would not have spelled the command over the phone to a client. Windows 8 no longer has the "manage wireless networks" control panel app.

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Re: Pros and Cons of Windows 8
« Reply #24 on: April 08, 2013, 05:03:42 AM »
Settings Charm -> click on the Network Icon -> right click on the network you want to remove (will only work on already saved networks) and select "Forget this network"

Alternatively, on the task bar click on the network icon, then proceed with step 3 from above
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Re: Pros and Cons of Windows 8
« Reply #25 on: April 08, 2013, 05:17:00 AM »
I'm still saying wait until Windows 9. Microsoft has a long line of bad OS followed by good OS.

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Re: Pros and Cons of Windows 8
« Reply #26 on: April 08, 2013, 06:02:41 AM »
Given their plan to shorten the release cycle I doubt 9 will be much different than 8. Especially if they double down on Metro (or Modern, whatever.)

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Re: Pros and Cons of Windows 8
« Reply #27 on: April 08, 2013, 06:28:05 AM »
I'm still saying wait until Windows 9. Microsoft has a long line of bad OS followed by good OS.
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Windows 8 - ... Okay?
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I'm still on 7. Waiting on 9 and to see if it's worth the upgrade. They release a hit, then a miss, then another hit, and a miss afterwards.


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Re: Pros and Cons of Windows 8
« Reply #28 on: April 08, 2013, 06:34:03 AM »
I actually had more fun with w2k though I worked more on XP.
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Re: Pros and Cons of Windows 8
« Reply #29 on: April 08, 2013, 06:53:30 AM »
I think people have some confirmation bias when they judge Windows versions. Windows 95 was so far ahead of the previous Windows iteration that you'd be hard pressed to argue any other version has defined the Windows desktop as much as 95 did. 98 was definitely better, but it was a minor step in relation to 95.

And they tend to drop NT and 2000, even though they both led to major innovations when they merged the business and home OSes with XP.

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Re: Pros and Cons of Windows 8
« Reply #30 on: April 08, 2013, 07:30:51 AM »
I think people have some confirmation bias when they judge Windows versions. Windows 95 was so far ahead of the previous Windows iteration that you'd be hard pressed to argue any other version has defined the Windows desktop as much as 95 did. 98 was definitely better, but it was a minor step in relation to 95.

And they tend to drop NT and 2000, even though they both led to major innovations when they merged the business and home OSes with XP.
NT and 2000 were for personnel computers?


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Re: Pros and Cons of Windows 8
« Reply #33 on: April 08, 2013, 12:00:40 PM »
I think people have some confirmation bias when they judge Windows versions. Windows 95 was so far ahead of the previous Windows iteration that you'd be hard pressed to argue any other version has defined the Windows desktop as much as 95 did. 98 was definitely better, but it was a minor step in relation to 95. 98 was great and made 95 obsolete by the time it came out by fixing a lot of issues.

And they tend to drop NT and 2000, even though they both led to major innovations when they merged the business and home OSes with XP.

AS someone who actually used a Windows 3.x machine in the early 90's (my dad put there playing freecel at his workplace  ;D ), and W95 was revolutionary and a HUGE step from the previous version and it  defined how it feels to use a personal computer for me. If the interface and GUI doesn't look like 95 I have difficulties using and maybe why I am not yet fully into the Linux boat.

 
Given their plan to shorten the release cycle I doubt 9 will be much different than 8. Especially if they double down on Metro (or Modern, whatever.)

I am also waiting for 9, to see what happens. For me game & CAD compatibility and UI is the biggest factors.
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Re: Pros and Cons of Windows 8
« Reply #34 on: April 08, 2013, 02:01:04 PM »
Settings Charm -> click on the Network Icon -> right click on the network you want to remove (will only work on already saved networks) and select "Forget this network"

Alternatively, on the task bar click on the network icon, then proceed with step 3 from above
That requires for the network in question to be present and visible (broadcasting SSID). It's not like in XP/7 where you had the list of all networks that you connected to at some point in the past.
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Re: Pros and Cons of Windows 8
« Reply #35 on: April 08, 2013, 02:06:51 PM »
For me game & CAD compatibility and UI is the biggest factors.

If not a secret, which ones? For me it's important that SolidWorks and Unigraphics NX8 work on an OS. Also NI Multisim (even though it is strictly EDA, not CAD)
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Re: Pros and Cons of Windows 8
« Reply #36 on: April 08, 2013, 02:21:26 PM »
For me game & CAD compatibility and UI is the biggest factors.

If not a secret, which ones? For me it's important that SolidWorks and Unigraphics NX8 work on an OS. Also NI Multisim (even though it is strictly EDA, not CAD)

I use Solid Edge for most Engineering works, simulate using Autodesk Inventor Multiphysics FEA suit for FEA, and if I have time I do some video illustration using Bryce7 just to make is look cute.

So my OS should be compatible to these three to make me happy.  ;)
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Re: Pros and Cons of Windows 8
« Reply #37 on: April 08, 2013, 02:43:52 PM »
What I want to know is is it safe to watch porn on it?
I don't want the whole world to know I'm watching porn, or watched porn on it.

An OS made for social needs on a PC..... Sounds bad enough.
But my question seems more like a joke right?
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Re: Pros and Cons of Windows 8
« Reply #38 on: April 08, 2013, 02:54:29 PM »
What I want to know is is it safe to watch porn on it?
I don't want the whole world to know I'm watching porn, or watched porn on it.

An OS made for social needs on a PC..... Sounds bad enough.
But my question seems more like a joke right?

As someone who was once surprised watching porn and doing certain action in boarding school, complete with that instant when you ask for a hole to hide yourself for ever  :-[ ... I can assure you that your question is DEAD serious.

I don't want facebook updates about the tentacles videos I am watching on facebook.  :-\
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Re: Pros and Cons of Windows 8
« Reply #39 on: April 08, 2013, 03:52:59 PM »
The only way you'll be sure:

Don't watch porn on it. Anyone with a bit of pc know how can take your hdd apart and see what has been on it. There are programs to wipe discs but hey,... forensics can unearth a lot what ppl think they have securely erased. To be sure that no one can read the hdd... destroy it. Bring a sledgehammer down on it a couple of times till the discs inside shatter or are completely bent.
The alternative:

-snickers-
  • Get a dedicated porn pc that has no connection to your other system(s).
  • Hide it locked away with biometric locks in your basement behind a fake wall bolted to the concrete floor.
Thats the way for the paranoid.

P.S.: If they were interested your ISP can find out what you dl =)

To be caught "hairy handed" is not fun. I'll believe that though.

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