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Re: Pros and Cons of Windows 8
« Reply #40 on: April 08, 2013, 04:05:53 PM »
Don't watch porn on it. Anyone with a bit of pc know how can take your hdd apart and see what has been on it. There are programs to wipe discs but hey,... forensics can unearth a lot what ppl think they have securely erased. To be sure that no one can read the hdd... destroy it. Bring a sledgehammer down on it a couple of times till the discs inside shatter or are completely bent.
Or you know just do a complex overwrite (7 passes will keep the police away from accessing your deleted data, 35passes if you want to be sure even NASA can't restore it)
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Re: Pros and Cons of Windows 8
« Reply #41 on: April 08, 2013, 05:06:13 PM »
true that. I wonder how long 4.2tb would take to wipe 7x... (now now, no that isn't all porn...)
I wanted to sell the hdd on ebay. I use it now for storage ^^.
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Re: Pros and Cons of Windows 8
« Reply #42 on: April 08, 2013, 05:16:32 PM »
The only way you'll be sure:

Don't watch porn on it. Anyone with a bit of pc know how can take your hdd apart and see what has been on it. There are programs to wipe discs but hey,... forensics can unearth a lot what ppl think they have securely erased. To be sure that no one can read the hdd... destroy it. Bring a sledgehammer down on it a couple of times till the discs inside shatter or are completely bent.
The alternative:

-snickers-
  • Get a dedicated porn pc that has no connection to your other system(s).
  • Hide it locked away with biometric locks in your basement behind a fake wall bolted to the concrete floor.
Thats the way for the paranoid.

Dude if so I would spend more effort hiding my porn than I do to hide my lone British Sovereign  :o

true that. I wonder how long 4.2tb would take to wipe 7x... (now now, no that isn't all porn...)
I wanted to sell the hdd on ebay. I use it now for storage ^^.

Reason why I don't want to sell my 1Tb HDD ... undelete is hazard  :angel:
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Re: Pros and Cons of Windows 8
« Reply #43 on: April 08, 2013, 05:33:25 PM »
Don't watch porn on it. Anyone with a bit of pc know how can take your hdd apart and see what has been on it. There are programs to wipe discs but hey,... forensics can unearth a lot what ppl think they have securely erased. To be sure that no one can read the hdd... destroy it. Bring a sledgehammer down on it a couple of times till the discs inside shatter or are completely bent.
Or you know just do a complex overwrite (7 passes will keep the police away from accessing your deleted data, 35passes if you want to be sure even NASA can't restore it)
How do you do those passes?


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Re: Pros and Cons of Windows 8
« Reply #44 on: April 08, 2013, 06:26:38 PM »
Don't watch porn on it. Anyone with a bit of pc know how can take your hdd apart and see what has been on it. There are programs to wipe discs but hey,... forensics can unearth a lot what ppl think they have securely erased. To be sure that no one can read the hdd... destroy it. Bring a sledgehammer down on it a couple of times till the discs inside shatter or are completely bent.
Or you know just do a complex overwrite (7 passes will keep the police away from accessing your deleted data, 35passes if you want to be sure even NASA can't restore it)
How do you do those passes?
maybe do write/delete cycles?

or on an easier route, just torch the whole hdd and burn it at 3000c :)) i doubt they can gather data from ashes.
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Re: Pros and Cons of Windows 8
« Reply #45 on: April 08, 2013, 06:30:35 PM »
Don't watch porn on it. Anyone with a bit of pc know how can take your hdd apart and see what has been on it. There are programs to wipe discs but hey,... forensics can unearth a lot what ppl think they have securely erased. To be sure that no one can read the hdd... destroy it. Bring a sledgehammer down on it a couple of times till the discs inside shatter or are completely bent.
Or you know just do a complex overwrite (7 passes will keep the police away from accessing your deleted data, 35passes if you want to be sure even NASA can't restore it)
How do you do those passes?
maybe do write/delete cycles?

How do you do that with a 1TB HDD ? and how are you sure that it is doing the cycles on the portion containing the data I want destroyed ? ???
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Re: Pros and Cons of Windows 8
« Reply #46 on: April 08, 2013, 06:32:00 PM »
Don't watch porn on it. Anyone with a bit of pc know how can take your hdd apart and see what has been on it. There are programs to wipe discs but hey,... forensics can unearth a lot what ppl think they have securely erased. To be sure that no one can read the hdd... destroy it. Bring a sledgehammer down on it a couple of times till the discs inside shatter or are completely bent.
Or you know just do a complex overwrite (7 passes will keep the police away from accessing your deleted data, 35passes if you want to be sure even NASA can't restore it)
How do you do those passes?
maybe do write/delete cycles?

How do you do that with a 1TB HDD ? and how are you sure that it is doing the cycles on the portion containing the data I want destroyed ? ???

there is an app that do full capacity write/delete cycles, they're benchmarks if i remember correctly.
you can see your hdd free space shrink to 0% and back to 100%.

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Re: Pros and Cons of Windows 8
« Reply #47 on: April 08, 2013, 06:51:58 PM »
While the 7 overwrite advice is a bit outdated, even a single pass takes quite long on modern drives.

However, if you want to be able to destroy your data, just use encryption with a really long key file. Destroying all copies of the key file will effectively render your data unreadable and would be much easier/faster than trying to overwrite the entire hard drive.
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« Reply #48 on: April 08, 2013, 06:52:54 PM »
There are programs like DiskWipe, Fileshredder, Diskscrubber... lotsa names. They do it for you. It runs a routine over the disc that writes nonsense files front to back over the disc and that 7 or more times. Not only the headers but also the partions of the disc. Each sector is written new and that 7x. I haven't really used one cuz I tossed it out as I saw it would take half a day for a 160gb hdd. That was several years ago. Maybe the discs are so much faster and the progs so much more effective. What I still always consider is that if there is a lock then there is a key. They say that those apps are good to permanently erase hdds. Though, I'd rather destroy the disk from being physically read again than to rely on "just" deleting. If you are so paranoid with the data you have.

I, for my situation, just didn't want a dad buying the hdds for his kid and an unnamed kid, that is a pc wiz, suddenly has a bag full of adult candy sprouting tentacles and whatever on their "new" disc. >.<

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Or what Pentium100 wrote 2 min b4 me ^^. That works if you use a 256bit key file. even the big petaflop monsters would take years to crack such a key... just to find out if you had porn on it... ok.. overkill if you please  ;D .
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Re: Pros and Cons of Windows 8
« Reply #49 on: April 08, 2013, 06:55:15 PM »
I, for my situation, just didn't want a dad buying the hdds for his kid and an unnamed kid, that is a pc wiz, suddenly has a bag full of adult candy sprouting tentacles and whatever on their "new" disc. >.<

That would actually would not be a problem ... imagine if he gets those pictures of your girls friend >.<
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Re: Pros and Cons of Windows 8
« Reply #50 on: April 08, 2013, 07:00:40 PM »
That would actually would not be a problem ... imagine if he gets those pictures of your girls friend >.<

... and you Gf found out the kids was a high level disto at school making money with them... keep the disk. is safer.
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Re: Pros and Cons of Windows 8
« Reply #51 on: April 08, 2013, 07:08:48 PM »
I, for my situation, just didn't want a dad buying the hdds for his kid and an unnamed kid, that is a pc wiz, suddenly has a bag full of adult candy sprouting tentacles and whatever on their "new" disc. >.<

No need for 7 pass here then. Just a simple zero fill and that's it.

The 7 pass advice comes from the time of MFM hard drives. Those drives had quite big mechanical tolerances so the heads would not be exactly on the track when reading/writing, so a single overwrite would not overwrite the whole track. Also, the signal/noise ratio was quite large, a simple peak detector could reliably decode the data. You could then read the raw signal (before it is converted to 1 and 0), decode it, then encode it back (creating an "ideal" signal) and subtract the ideal signal from what you read hopefully getting something more than just noise. In theory it was possible to do so 7 times, though I doubt that all hard drives could do that, probably just the severely misaligned 5MB drives (lower capacity - bigger tolerances).

Modern drives operate at around 2dB signal/noise ratio ( (E)PRML is used to decode the data, no longer simple peak detection) and have tolerances that are really tight. It would not be possible to reconstruct even one overwritten layer.
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Re: Pros and Cons of Windows 8
« Reply #52 on: April 08, 2013, 07:22:07 PM »
That would actually would not be a problem ... imagine if he gets those pictures of your girls friend >.<

... and you Gf found out the kids was a high level disto at school making money with them... keep the disk. is safer.

Yes, keeping it way safer. All those Anime Yandere are funny to watch, until this happens to you. NSFW and disturbing
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Re: Pros and Cons of Windows 8
« Reply #53 on: April 09, 2013, 05:03:19 AM »
That would actually would not be a problem ... imagine if he gets those pictures of your girls friend >.<

... and you Gf found out the kids was a high level disto at school making money with them... keep the disk. is safer.

Yes, keeping it way safer. All those Anime Yandere are funny to watch, until this happens to you. NSFW and disturbing

lol how did the topic lead to this?

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Re: Pros and Cons of Windows 8
« Reply #54 on: April 09, 2013, 06:19:03 AM »
someone asked if w8 was SFP or it is a safe for porn OS that no one can see what they have watched on their PC.
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Re: Pros and Cons of Windows 8
« Reply #55 on: April 09, 2013, 07:35:09 AM »
That would actually would not be a problem ... imagine if he gets those pictures of your girls friend >.<

... and you Gf found out the kids was a high level disto at school making money with them... keep the disk. is safer.

Yes, keeping it way safer. All those Anime Yandere are funny to watch, until this happens to you. NSFW and disturbing

lol how did the topic lead to this?

We started about concerns of W8 updating your facebook profile about your tentacles anime cartoon, then how to delete porn for good and ended up with the conclusion that if you have inappropriate pictures of your GF you better keep your HDD instead of putting faith on a HDD erasing application ... or she could go Gasai Yuno on you and cut your junk with a scissor.  ;D
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Re: Pros and Cons of Windows 8
« Reply #56 on: April 09, 2013, 06:09:20 PM »
How do you do those passes?

Take a look at DBAN (Darik's Boot And Nuke). It's one of the most popular HDD secure wiping applications available.

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Re: Pros and Cons of Windows 8
« Reply #57 on: April 10, 2013, 12:48:02 PM »
Can we sue Microsoft if our Porns shows up on our Facebook?
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Re: Pros and Cons of Windows 8
« Reply #58 on: April 10, 2013, 03:57:33 PM »
Can we sue Microsoft if our Porns shows up on our Facebook?

The general answers to questions like these tends to be, "depends, how good of a lawyer can you hire?"

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Re: Pros and Cons of Windows 8
« Reply #59 on: April 10, 2013, 04:54:47 PM »
Can we sue Microsoft if our Porns shows up on our Facebook?

The general answers to questions like these tends to be, "depends, how good of a lawyer can you hire?"

Even if I could hire the best lawyer, they'll probably just hire the 2nd ~ 10th best lawyer.

1st best lawyer < 2nd ~ 10th best layer.
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