Author Topic: Aku no Hana | The Flowers of Evil (Read 9061 times)

pinkflip · « **Reply #80 on:** June 03, 2013, 05:57:36 PM »

Oh Nakamura, you're my favourite.
I think I might have to start reading the manga too >_>

GoGeTa006 · « **Reply #81 on:** June 03, 2013, 07:35:33 PM »

freaking kasuga such a wuss, his balls need to drop

MrIntruder · « **Reply #82 on:** June 03, 2013, 07:40:09 PM »

Quote from: GoGeTa006 on June 03, 2013, 07:35:33 PM

freaking kasuga such a wuss, his balls need to drop

2 episodes ago, they did, this episode he got kicked in them again and ran away heh.

TMRNetShark · « **Reply #83 on:** June 03, 2013, 09:12:28 PM »

This is bullshit and purely to cool everyone's nerves about this show. They are halfway through chapter 15... out of the 45 that is currently written. I have finished volume 3 (which is up to chapter 17) and by the looks of it, the show might end at the conclusion of volume 3. The beginning of chapter 18 does make it out to be as if it was a "new season" in terms of the show.. so we might have to wait another year for the story to continue after that point.

I'm sorry.

MrIntruder · « **Reply #84 on:** June 09, 2013, 01:23:14 PM »

I know you're reading the manga so I'm curious, how does it compare?

This weeks episode showed a lot of emotion in tone of voice, in expression of body language and the general atmosphere. I mean, once again after watching another episode, it left me with goosebumps and feeling a lot of empathy.

Now, onto the episode itself, do you think the author is trying to convey how a person is while they are going through a depression? This is how it seemed to me as I too have felt like that before, being empty and numb, forced into a situation where you have to choose yet nothing makes sense so you end up being stuck-torn.

Every episode, always leaving me wondering about Kasuga's mental state and also reminds me of my mental state a few years ago.

TMRNetShark · « **Reply #85 on:** June 09, 2013, 03:14:19 PM »

Quote from: MrIntruder on June 09, 2013, 01:23:14 PM

I know you're reading the manga so I'm curious, how does it compare?

The anime does really well to convey what the manga tells. I like Kasuga more in the anime, but Saeki and Nakamura are better in the manga. I will say one thing, the story will not... I repeat... will NOT stop getting better. Especially when I got into the later volumes of the manga (which will be the 2nd and 3rd seasons) where you'll see stuff that will leave you dumbfounded. Like I have a feeling that the writer of the manga had experienced this or he knows of someone who experienced this. The internal struggles of the characters just feel real.

5Cats · « **Reply #86 on:** June 09, 2013, 10:35:07 PM »

Another episode where I laughed my brains out from start to finish! Oh, my aching ribs!

I mean seriously: does everyone laugh like a banshee while watching - or is it just me?

I watch and then read the manga to catch up to it. Last episode the manga carried on so I read to the end of the chapter. Not a problem.

I like all three characters way better in the anime! Especially Nakamura, the actress they 'scoped for her is perfect! The manga girl is too good looking, to 'normal' looking.
Saeki in the manga is pretty, but in the anime she's adorable! Again I see much more character in the anime than the "generic look" of the manga.

Don't mistake me: the manga is terrific! Far above "average" for certain! How they've managed to transfer the BEST parts of the manga to the animation and even make it better? A question for the ages!

I hope this becomes super-popular, so they'll make a movie and a live version too.
(A cat can dream, eh?)

Chapter 16 of the manga awaits!

SchoolDaysEX · « **Reply #87 on:** June 10, 2013, 10:05:00 PM »

This anime is really good. The main character makes me glad I grew up with video games instead of reading books. HAHAHAHAHHAHA
-----shivers at the idea

Xycolian2332 · « **Reply #88 on:** June 11, 2013, 04:08:20 AM »

MC takes the cake for most annoying/retarded character ever.

This kid makes me froth at the mouth whenever he does anything because everything he does is completely fucking retarded.

I really despise this douchebag. When I'm watching an episode, I frequently fantasize about torturing and killing him. The torturing never lasts for long in these fantasies because I know I wouldn't be able to hold myself back... and also because his screaming and crying would get irritating very quickly.

EmptyMemory · « **Reply #89 on:** June 11, 2013, 06:21:46 AM »

Quote from: Xycolian2332 on June 11, 2013, 04:08:20 AM

MC takes the cake for most annoying/retarded character ever.

This kid makes me froth at the mouth whenever he does anything because everything he does is completely fucking retarded.

I really despise this douchebag. When I'm watching an episode, I frequently fantasize about torturing and killing him. The torturing never lasts for long in these fantasies because I know I wouldn't be able to hold myself back... and also because his screaming and crying would get irritating very quickly.

this post is almost more fucked up than the show is

5Cats · « **Reply #90 on:** June 11, 2013, 03:20:37 PM »

Quote from: Xycolian2332 on June 11, 2013, 04:08:20 AM

MC takes the cake for most annoying/retarded character ever.

I really despise this douchebag. When I'm watching an episode, I frequently fantasize about torturing and killing him.

Well, since he's a masochist? You'd probably be doing him a favour

Cut the boy some slack! He's got to start "low" and improve as time goes on, eh? If he weren't annoying NOW he couldn't improve as the story progresses...

And he's had 2 of his "walls" come down so far, so that's an improvement!
The first wall was mid-season, the second was in Ep.10 but it hasn't been discussed by the characters just yet...

All 3 main characters have had -amazing- development so far!

MrIntruder · « **Reply #91 on:** June 11, 2013, 04:11:27 PM »

Quote from: Xycolian2332 on June 11, 2013, 04:08:20 AM

MC takes the cake for most annoying/retarded character ever.

This kid makes me froth at the mouth whenever he does anything because everything he does is completely fucking retarded.

I really despise this douchebag. When I'm watching an episode, I frequently fantasize about torturing and killing him. The torturing never lasts for long in these fantasies because I know I wouldn't be able to hold myself back... and also because his screaming and crying would get irritating very quickly.

I don't think you're really following the point of the story, it's more about the mental and emotional development, I mean yeah I agree and even said myself that I wish his balls would drop but this is why the story is panning out the way it is, we see him let go and go wild but now he's been forced into yet another corner so he's curled up again.

Quote from: 5Cats on June 11, 2013, 03:20:37 PM

The first wall was mid-season, the second was in Ep.10 but it hasn't been discussed by the characters just yet...

All 3 main characters have had -amazing- development so far!

I wouldn't say Saeki has had much development as such other then being portrayed as the "victim" however what I believe we may see in the upcoming episodes are the confrontations of Saeki and Nakamura during or after the police station.

Doesn't it strike you as odd that Saeki was rather... accepting of Kasuga's behaviour? After it being revealed that he was the one to steal the clothes and trash the classroom, ~normal~ people would undoubtedly punish or reprimand Kasuga for his actions so I imagine Saeki too has a wall and the truth may be that she too has secret desires, mind you, Nakamura called it straight away that she wants to be fucked, I reckon Saeki has the fetish of observing people who're troubled.

Xycolian2332 · « **Reply #92 on:** June 11, 2013, 10:19:08 PM »

Quote from: EmptyMemory on June 11, 2013, 06:21:46 AM

Quote from: Xycolian2332 on June 11, 2013, 04:08:20 AM
MC takes the cake for most annoying/retarded character ever.

This kid makes me froth at the mouth whenever he does anything because everything he does is completely fucking retarded.

I really despise this douchebag. When I'm watching an episode, I frequently fantasize about torturing and killing him. The torturing never lasts for long in these fantasies because I know I wouldn't be able to hold myself back... and also because his screaming and crying would get irritating very quickly.

this post is almost more fucked up than the show is

If my posts amount of "fucked up" was proportional to your posts pointlessness, then that's when you would truly be able to call it "fucked up".

Quote from: MrIntruder on June 11, 2013, 04:11:27 PM

I don't think you're really following the point of the story, it's more about the mental and emotional development, I mean yeah I agree and even said myself that I wish his balls would drop but this is why the story is panning out the way it is, we see him let go and go wild but now he's been forced into yet another corner so he's curled up again.

To be honest I don't even care about that particular development, because in my mind he's just developing in a way that Nakamura wants him to, when he should just tell her to go fuck herself and do whatever he wants to do.

Like seriously? This kid is just letting her fuck his life up and he doesn't do anything about it (except letting her fuck it up even more ofc). He's like putty in her hands and he's too stupid to realize it or do anything about it. That's what pisses me off.

He needs to really make a grand stand against Naka for me to return to a neutral attitude about his character. Although even if he does make a stand against her, I think he'll inevitably slip into pussy mode again and let her keep fucking his life up... which would only serve to infuriate me even more.

TMRNetShark · « **Reply #93 on:** June 12, 2013, 01:19:26 AM »

I sadly knows what happens, but it doesn't make me anymore less excited. Since there are 3 more episodes left, I know where the season will end and I cannot wait. You guys will love this anime by the end of the season.

As for this episode, I feel I get Kasuga more. I get what he's feeling and his internal struggle.

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5Cats · « **Reply #94 on:** June 12, 2013, 02:03:18 AM »

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I wouldn't say Saeki has had much development as such other then being portrayed as the "victim"

@MrIntruder: Development as in "revelation" eh? A lot of her "inner workings" were revealed and by golly they're not pretty! She makes excuses, she has self-delusions, she really IS "wetter than an otter's pocket". Oh wait, that's a good thing.

She could be the victim here, but she's still actively pursuing Kasuga, so that makes her a "party member". Loyalty? Jealousy? Fear? Anger? Lust? It's still unclear what her primary motivation(s) is.

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This kid is just letting her fuck his life up and he doesn't do anything about it...

@Xycolian2332: Um, do what about what? THAT is the "contract" they made! It's an "S&M" thing and would take a VERY large amount of explaining. She's not "fucking up" his life! She's revealing the truth to him!
THAT is why he stays with Nakamura: she (appears to) KNOW the truth!

Think of it like this:
Saeki = physical
Nakamura = spiritual

Both are lovely in their own way! How can one "choose between" them? It's just about impossible. Hence episode 10...

@TMRNetShark: I totally agree that Baudelaire's poems are critical to this show. Unfortunately they're also very difficult to understand...

(Unless, like me, you're already a deranged deviant... lolz!)

DmonHiro · « **Reply #95 on:** June 12, 2013, 02:56:23 PM »

Some people are talking about a second, even a third season of this, in the future? On what planet? Seriously?
Guess they are ending this season at the end of volume 3. And no, the plot does not get better. Gets worse, imo.

TMRNetShark · « **Reply #96 on:** June 12, 2013, 08:06:08 PM »

Quote from: DmonHiro on June 12, 2013, 02:56:23 PM

Some people are talking about a second, even a third season of this, in the future? On what planet? Seriously?
Guess they are ending this season at the end of volume 3. And no, the plot does not get better. Gets worse, imo.

You mean the end of Volume 4? This last episode (ep 10) just finished Volume 3. I think it gets better. I love the manga a lot.

barcibus · « **Reply #97 on:** June 12, 2013, 11:58:52 PM »

Started off pretty interesting, but then at episode 7 it turned into a story about a couple of lonely sociopaths, one sadistic, the other masochistic, who couldn't take it anymore and jumped off the deep end. Then episode 8 goes a solid nine minutes with nothing but rehash and walking (literally).

I was hoping for more; something that regular people could relate to, even if they didn't want to.

TMRNetShark · « **Reply #98 on:** June 13, 2013, 12:12:22 AM »

Quote from: barcibus on June 12, 2013, 11:58:52 PM

Started off pretty interesting, but then at episode 7 it turned into a story about a couple of lonely sociopaths, one sadistic, the other masochistic, who couldn't take it anymore and jumped off the deep end. Then episode 8 goes a solid nine minutes with nothing but rehash and walking (literally).

I was hoping for more; something that regular people could relate to, even if they didn't want to.

I totally agree with you. It's not very relatable anime, at all. Hell, even I can't relate to the characters on much of any level. The reason why I like it though is because it's unique. There are little to no tropes and the nail emotion right on the head. The "walking" scene you referring to was very intentional even if they manga didn't go for as long as it did (even though reading a manga takes up so much less time). As cliche as it sounds, it was meant to show a turning point in Kasuga without explicitly saying "Hey, this kid is fucked up in the head!"

Trust me when I say that by the end of the season, you'll like it better as a complete package. Episode 8 was a total drag... but my money is going to be on Episode 12. *Evil face*

barcibus · « **Reply #99 on:** June 13, 2013, 12:28:37 AM »

Well, I can't stop watching it at this point. And I like how different the anime is; they make characters so real and diverse that I wonder if they used real actors and rotoscoping. That guy that holds his chin all the time, he seems like a real person. Heck, they all do, except for Nakamura and Kasuga... and Saeki's parents (I mean what parents wouldn't pull their child out of that school after the events of ep. 7?).